AMD Ryzen 2nd Generation Threadripper 2920X and 2970WX Review

Conclusion

AMD Ryzen 2nd Generation Threadripper 2920X and 2970WX Review

Conclusion

We know whilst some people might prefer us to just run tests which emphasise a single aspect of a product, we understand that what you plan to do with your purchase has a significant weighting effect. Taking the Ryzen Threadrippers suitability from least to most;

If you just plan on gaming and don't give a fig for doing anything else, then first what are you reading this review for? But obviously anything at all will give you a good result, with games being infinitely more GPU limited than CPU. If, however, you are one of the growing breed of people who make their living creating content from tutorials to compilations of cats being cute then you'll appreciate the ability to get the video encoded as swiftly as possible. If you love to mod games and thus need all the 3D rendering capability that modern life has to offer then there is no doubting that the Threadripper makes for an exceedingly attractive proposition, combining a relatively affordable entry point and undeniably meaty results. The 2920X in particular straddles the line between affordability and results. The 2970WX is expensive enough that we feel if you really need that many cores then you might be worth saving up for the 2990WX, given how much more performance is available to you from that processor.

Now it might seem like an obvious decision then. We all know in the computer world that the 'bigger, better, faster, more' maxim holds true and thus if you can afford it you should grab the 2970WX and if you're a little lower on the fiscal scale the 2920X. Not so fast my impatient friend. The choice you make is significantly based upon what you expect to do.

The Threadripper 2970WX follows the same path the 2990WX trod, that having so many cores and threads available mean that if you're rendering or relying almost wholly upon hugely calculation heavy tasks in your daily use then it's absolutely the one to go for. But those high core counts come at a usability cost when using everything else. Windows, and certainly a lot of applications, just aren't designed to utilise 24 cores and 48 threads, and so the slightly lower clock speed plays a bigger role when your app is only using four (for example) and the rest is idle. If the coders were particularly slipshod in their work then it can actually impact negatively as we saw in Total War : Warhammer. AMD have worked around this by letting you disable some cores in their Ryzen Master software, but you need to be aware that you will be forever going in and out of it to toggle it on or off per application. However, if you just use Adobe Premiere, Autodesk Maya and a heavyweight Chess engine then there is no replacement for having this many cores available to you and thus it wins our OC3D Performance Award.

The Threadripper 2920X is a much better all-rounder than the 2970WX. It doesn't require any tweaking to reduce the core count for gaming, but has enough extra cores than similarly priced rivals that it chomps through high workload tasks effortlessly. That pricing has to be mentioned as AMD have gone super-aggressive with the price of the Threadripper 2920X, a mere $649 MSRP at time of review. This places it below the i7-7820X which it comfortably out-performs, and not that much more than the i9-9900K which when you take streaming into account it absolutely obliterates. Because it isn't stretching the limits of the amount of threads currently designed applications and games are expecting, and because the lower core count means that you can push the clock speed a little higher than its bigger brother, means that it's a seriously great chip no matter what your expected usage. Because it's just as happy crunching numbers as it is feeding your GPU with data for gaming and that very attractive price point means it wins our coveted OC3D Enthusiast Award.

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AMD Ryzen 2nd Generation Threadripper 2920X and 2970WX Review

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AMD Ryzen 2nd Generation Threadripper 2920X and 2970WX Review

 
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29-10-2018, 09:45:45

Damien c
Tom not sure if it's just me or not but the video seems like it has some weird graphical issues like, a sharpness filter is on max and not working correctly and then the background having a few issues as well?

It's like the background is wobbling it's pretty weird to be honest, doesn't look like your normal quality of videos.

Either way I know my next upgrade is going to be on my render machine and it will be a threadripper, but still not sure if it will be 1st gen or 2nd gen threadripper.Quote

29-10-2018, 09:55:14

Wraith
Not seeing it on my end, quality is as normal as any other video.

I'm actually quite tempted to go down the Thread ripper route for my next build.Quote

29-10-2018, 10:00:30

AlienALX
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Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
Not seeing it on my end, quality is as normal as any other video.

I'm actually quite tempted to go down the Thread ripper route for my next build.
The boards are a little cheaper now, which was what made it easy for me to stick with X99 last upgrade.

Still no reason for me to upgrade here though. Well, it would be nice, but the cost is just far too high to make any sorta sense. Thing is, I took a risk on a 14 core CPU but looking around a bit? it's kinda starting to pay off. I just checked the specs for FO76 and you need quad core min with QC+HT recc. So we are heading in the right direction.Quote

29-10-2018, 10:22:52

Damien c
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Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
Not seeing it on my end, quality is as normal as any other video.

I'm actually quite tempted to go down the Thread ripper route for my next build.
Strange will look at it later and see if it's because I was downloading although that normally doesn't affect it.Quote

29-10-2018, 11:52:19

AffenKatzen
Hi Tom,

I just wanted to start out with saying that I generally enjoy the content here and I value the reviews you guys do, but I was wondering what the reasoning behind having a graph dedicated to comparing temperatures of various CPUs when the test setup isn't kept identical?

As far as I can tell then only the results for 2950X, 2990WX, 2920x and 2970WX are from using the Coolermaster ML360 RGB TR4 AIO Cooler, whereas the i7-6700k used the Corsair H110i GTX and all other CPUs used the Corsair H110i GT.

In your review of the 2950X and 2990WX you explain the decision for using the coolermaster cooler with: "we're using the Coolermaster MasterLiquid ML360R RGB TR4 for our overclocking tests as there is no chance of keeping these monsters under control when overclocked using an air cooler.", but all other CPUs you compare with were already tested with an AIO, just 280mm instead of 360mm so that seems like an odd justification for changing from your regular setup.

So to go on and conclude that "The days of toasty AMD CPUs are long behind us and the Threadrippers, even with their enormous core counts, still remain cool under pressure." seems odd when you're specifically testing the threadripper CPUs with a beefier cooler than all others you compare it to.

If you didn't feel that your regular cooler, the Corsair H110i GT, would do a good enough job or you had other reasons for testing with the Coolermaster ML360 RGB TR4 then that's fine, but my point is just that the results shouldn't be in the same graph together when they aren't comparable.Quote
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