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Nvidia CEO Calls Radeon VII "Underwhelming" and says "The Performance is Lousy"

Jensen says that the RTX 2080 will 'Crush It'

Nvidia CES Call Radeon VII

Nvidia CEO Calls Radeon VII "Underwhelming" and says "The Performance is Lousy"

Shortly after the reveal of the 7nm Radeon VII graphics card, PC World managed to snag an interview with Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, seeking his opinions on the latest GPU from their competitor, and whoa, he didn't hold back.  

Jensen started by saying that the Radeon VII is "underwhelming", later stating that "the performance is lousy and there’s nothing new", having a jab at AMD's continued use of their Vega graphics architecture. Obviously, Jensen doesn't know the performance of the Radeon VII, as Nvidia cannot test an unreleased Radeon graphics card to come to that conclusion. That said, AMD positions their Radeon VII beside the RTX 2080, making the Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti the clear performance champion. 

Adding to his comments, Jensen stated that “[There’s] no ray tracing, no AI. It’s 7nm with HBM memory that barely keeps up with a 2080. And if we turn on DLSS we’ll crush it. And if we turn on ray tracing we’ll crush it." Regarding this comment, we will note that only one game supports DLSS and only one game supports ray tracing at the time of writing, though more games will undoubtedly gain support for these features in the future. 

In response to these criticisms, AMD's CEO, Lisa Su, stated that "we’re very excited about Radeon VII, and I would probably suggest that he hasn’t seen it yet."

Nvidia CES Call Radeon VII  

When asked about AMD's FreeSync technology, Jensen commented that “We never competed (with FreeSync),” and that “(FreeSync) was never proven to work. As you know, we invented the area of adaptive sync. The truth is most of the FreeSync monitors do not work. They do not even work with AMD’s graphics cards.” 

Much of these comments can be dismissed, as FreeSync as a technology clearly works, though he right when saying that the ecosystem has issues, at least when considering Nvidia's viewpoint. 

During the company's CES keynote they confirmed their plans to support Adaptive-Sync, but out of 400 screens, the company found that only twelve of them matched up to Nvidia's standards. These twelve monitors will have G-Sync enabled automatically on Nvidia hardware, with other adaptive sync monitors requiring end users to activate a manual override.  

Jensen claims that "We (Nvidia) will test every single card against every single monitor against every single game (really, every single game?) and if it doesn’t work, we will say it doesn’t work. And if it does, we will let it work.", committing to supporting the adaptive sync ecosystem while retaining the standards set by G-Sync. 

Later, when asked about Intel's plans to create dedicated graphics, Jensen commented that “Intel’s graphics team is basically AMD, right? I’m trying to figure out AMD’s graphics team.” This comment refers to Intel hiring several high-profile members of AMD's Radeon Technologies Group, such as Raja Koduri. 

Nvidia is clearly unimpressed with AMD's Radeon VII, seeing their RTX technologies like Ray Tracing and DLSS as major advantages for their latest Turing graphics cards. AMD's lack of a competing feature set marks their products as inferior, at least in the eyes of Jensen. 

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10-01-2019, 10:47:37

looz

10-01-2019, 10:52:08

Wraith
Oh I do enjoy these gloves off back and forth blows between Teams Red & Green, we need this more often.Quote

10-01-2019, 10:55:53

looz
^ The fact that that Jensen is Lisa's uncle wakes it way funnier.Quote

10-01-2019, 11:02:56

tolis626
So, reading this, I can interpret it as one of two things :

1) NVidia are getting kind of scared. Not because they are not ahead, but because their lead may be shrinking (market-wise) and with all the lawsuits and stuff, they are bleeding money and AMD might have a chance to really catch up. They may pay for their arrogance in the last few years.

2) NVidia know they're so far ahead of the competition that they feel comfortable ridiculing them during their time on the spotlight. No matter how wrong other things go, their technology is great and there's no chance of AMD catching up.

I for one think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Intel was seen as farther ahead of AMD on the CPU front than NVidia is on the GPU front, and AMD managed to somehow pull the carpet under Intel's feet. And now they're feeling the pressure while AMD is raking in that sweet sweet money Ryzen brings. I'm not holding my breath, but I wouldn't be too surprised if a similar thing happened with NVidia down the line. For now, Radeon VII is a bit underwhelming, but only when viewed from an improvement over Vega standpoint (or a power consumtion standpoint, I will assume). The performance, if AMD's testing is to be believed, is nice and I will probably be buying one, just because I want that level of performance, don't care about power draw and don't want to buy NVidia out of principle.Quote

10-01-2019, 11:03:03

ImprovizoR
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Originally Posted by WYP View Post
Jensen says that the RTX 2080 will "crush it" with DLSS.
Which is supported by how many games?


Nvidia's been dealing in gimmicks for well over a decade now. DLSS is no different. Just a fancy upscaling technique. And Nvidia likes to commit an occasional fraud every once in a while, let's not forget about that. That's why I really can't stand them as a company and why I'm constantly rooting for AMD to come up with something at least decent enough that I don't have to give my money to Nvidia.Quote
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