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AMD Ryzen 3rd Generation Threadripper CPU appears online

The death of Threadripper has been exaggerated - Zen 2 is coming

Ryzen 3rd Gen points towards and incredible future for Threadripper

AMD Ryzen 3rd Generation Threadripper CPU appears online

If AMD's Ruzen 3000 series has shown us anything, it's that AMD's chiplet designs are ready to take the world by storm. With Zen 2, AMD offers a fantastic level of scalability without the downsides of the company's older Threadripper and EPYC designs. Forward-looking readers will know that this sets up AMD's Ryzen 3rd Generation Threadripper processors to be incredible products. 

Now, what appears to be a Ryzen 3rd Generation Threadripper processor has arrived on the  UserBenchmark database (thanks TUM-APISAK), offering 16-cores, and 32-threads on AMD's SP3v2 socket with a quad-channel memory configuration. Why do we think this is Zen 2? Compare it to a 16-core Threadripper 2950X result and look at the memory latency chart. This engineering sample has more L3 cache, just like other Zen 2 processors.

The processor offers a 3.6GHz base clock speed and a 4.05GHz average boost clock. While this isn't that high, it is worth remembering that this processor appears to be an early engineering sample.  

With AMD offering a 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X on AM4, it seems unlikely that the company would ship another 16-core model on their TR4 socket, as this would cannibalise their sales on one of the two platforms. It also raises the question of what AMD would call a 16 core Threadripper processor; the 3950X name is taken. Ryzen Threadripper 3950WX perhaps? 

AMD's Ryzen 3rd Generation Threadripper processors are likely to offer higher core/thread counts than ever before. We know that up to 64-cores are possible with Zen 2 on AMD's SP3 EPYC socket, which means that up to 64-core designs are also possible on TR4. With Zen 2 Threadripper, 24-core, 32-core, 48-core and 64-core models are possible. 

Ryzen 3rd Generation CPUs point towards an incredible future for Threadripper

 

With Zen 2 AMD has proved that a multi-die processor is possible with minimal downsides. We have found no workloads where AMD's Zen 2 processors perform worse than their single-die Ryzen 2nd Gen counterparts. This showcases the power of AMD's latest designs. With Ryzen 3rd Generation Threadripper, these gains will be amplified. In short, AMD has addressed the main criticisms of Threadripper in one fell swoop by delivering what's effectively a beefed-up version of the company's AM4 Zen 2 offerings. 

Unlike AMD's existing Threadripper processors, Ryzen 3rd Generation/Zen 2 Threadripper will utilise a single, unified memory controller on a separate I/O/memory die. This is similar to what AMD has shown with their Zen 2 EPYC processors. With 3rd Gen Threadripper, AMD can deliver a true quad-channel memory setup with identical memory access latencies to all CPU cores. This is impossible on AMD's previous multi-memory controller solution.

AMD's Ryzen 3rd Generation Threadripper processors are likely to release in late 2019. 

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24-07-2019, 11:20:37

Kei
I'm looking forward to this. It's been a little bit depressing seeing 3900X's coming so close to 1950x performance and it makes my 1920x look a bit ropy. Thankfully, I went for threadripper for the pcie lanes more than the cores. That said, it still hurts a little to think that only 2 years down the road it's been spanked by mainstream offerings.Quote

24-07-2019, 11:26:32

tgrech
I wonder what the layout would be with these now that the number of dies no longer impacts IO, 8x(1+1) dies for the maximum L3 cache & heat distribution? 2x(4+4) to maintain minimum 4/8c latency? Or 4x(2+2) as a compromise? Or maybe even asymmetric 8x(2+0) or 4x(4+0) cores if there's a lot of spares going. If I had to bet I'd probably guess 4x(2+2) myself, more cache than mainstream, wider distribution for higher clocks, but without sacrificing too much inter-cache latency.Quote

24-07-2019, 12:06:48

demonking
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With AMD offering a 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X on AM4, it seems unlikely that the company would ship another 16-core model on their TR4 socket
more than possible though. Intel did the same thing a few years back if I remember rightly on their X79 platform (i7 3820???). You may not need 32+ threads but you may need the PCI-e Lanes and im sure the quad channel memory is going to be a bonus too?Quote

24-07-2019, 12:25:02

tgrech
Yeah that's what I was thinking, it's why first gen thread ripper had an 8-core model too, it's particularly useful for all the professional software that has per-core licensing.Quote

24-07-2019, 12:28:58

NeverBackDown
I can also see a 16 core. Though what it will cost is the question. At that point you have to weigh all the chipset benefit cost over normal 3950x and would it actually be worth more especially if the boards are super expensive?

Just needs to have a clear and defined gap if they release a 16C TR.Quote
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