XFX 8800 GTS 512 and Asus 8800 GT 512 - G92 shoot out

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Introduction
 
Nvidia are really churning out the chips recently and turning the screws tighter on ATI. The new G92 revisions featuring the 8800 GT and the 8800 GTS are both chips that really bolster Nvidia's product line at the top of the pile.
 
I look upon the Nvidia naming conventions with some concern nowadays. Far from being clear we now have 8800 GT (G92), 8800 GTS  640 or 320 (G80), 8800 GTS 512 (G92), 8800 GTX (G80) and 8800 Ultra (G80). I'm know I missed off a few revs but those are the major products that the big green are sending out nowadays...if you can find them.
 
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We've already shown you the G92 8800 GT, so here's explaining what the G92 8800 GTS 512 is made of:
 
8800 GTS 512 - G92...what?
 
So what exactly are we looking at with the 8800 GTS 512 Rev 2 G92 chip? (try saying that without getting confused!). For starters it's got an equal number of stream processors to it's big brother, the 8800 GTX at 128.
 
Instead of the 320bit memory interface found on the higher end 8800 GTS, the G92 8800 GTS has a 256bit interface, paired with 512mb RAM. This gives the G92 a fair bit less bandwidth to play around with than it's predecessors.
 
Another pleasant addition to the new 8800 GTS is that it has 128 stream processors as compared to the old 8800 GTS's 112. Texture address and filtering has been changed around by Nvidia and the stream processor clock gets a nice bump to 1625MHz.
 
All this leads me to think that the G92 8800 GTS should be a rather fast GPU and possibly a match for the 8800 GTX. Be aware though, it's not going to touch it's higher end predecessor the 8800 Ultra, as Nvidia's flagship model still has over 60% more memory bandwidth and 40% more pixel fillrate.
 
Of course, we have to mention that the G92 is fabricated by TSMC on a 65nm process.
 
The Nvidia family
 
Below is a table showing you what the members of the 8 series family look like:
 
Form Factor 8800 Ultra 8800 GTX 8800 GTS 8800 GTS 512 8800 GT 256MB 8800 GT 8600 GTS
Stream Processors 128 128 96 128 112 112 32
Texture Address / Filtering 32 / 64 32 / 64 24 / 48 64 / 64 56 / 56 56 / 56 16 / 16
ROPs 24 24 20 16 16 16 8
Core Clock 612MHz 575MHz 500MHz 650MHz 600MHz+ 600MHz+ 675MHz
Shader Clock 1.5GHz 1.35GHz 1.2GHz 1.625GHz 1.5GHz+ 1.5GHz+ 1.45GHz
Memory Clock 1.8GHz 1.8GHz 1.6GHz 1.94GHz 1.4GHz - 1.6GHz 1.8GHz

2.0GHz

Memory Bus Width 384-bit 384-bit 320-bit 256-bit 256-bit 256-bit 128-bit
Frame Buffer 768MB 768MB 640MB / 320MB 512MB 256MB 512MB 256MB
Transistor Count 681M 681M 681M 754M 754M 754M 289M
Manufacturing Process TSMC 90nm TSMC 90nm TSMC 90nm TSMC 65nm TSMC 65nm TSMC 65nm TSMC 80nm
Price Point $600 - $800+ $500 - $600 $270 - $450 $349+ $219 - $229 $299 - $349 $140 - $199

Note: Table courtesy of Anandtech

As you can see, the 8800 GTS 512 fits in between the 8800 GT and the  the 8800 GTX in terms of price, although we are yet to see whether this is reflected in performance.

Specification - XFX 8800 GTS 512 XXX Alpha Dog Edition

Clock rate
678 MHz
Memory Clock
1.972 GHz
Dual Link DVI - Supporting digital output up to 2560x1600
Yes (Dual)
Chipset
GeForce 8800 GTS
Memory
512 MB
Bus Type
PCI-E
Memory Type
DDR3
Memory Bus
256-bit
Highlighted Features
TV Out , Dual DVI Out , RoHS , SLI ready , HDTV ready , Vista , HDCP Ready

Specification - Asus 8800 GT Top

 

Clock rate
700 MHz
Memory Clock
2 GHz
Dual Link DVI - Supporting digital output up to 2560x1600
Yes (Dual)
Chipset
GeForce 8800 GT
Memory
512 MB
Bus Type
PCI-E
Memory Type
DDR3
Memory Bus
256-bit
Highlighted Features
TV Out , Dual DVI Out , RoHS , SLI ready , HDTV ready , Vista , HDCP Ready

 

Both SKU's we have today are overclocked, with XFX sending us their XXX Alpha Dog Edition and Asus sending us their speedy Top Edition.
 
Now we've taken a look at both specifications, let's take a look at both cards in turn and see what we're actually looking at today
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Most Recent Comments

26-12-2007, 14:02:42

Bungral
Ok finished the reading :) very nicely done Kempez... Must have taken a fair while??

I think what surprised me the most was how close all 3 were.. I knew the GTX still beat the GT but I thought the gap was bigger... Its such a small gap to try and fit the new GTS into. They obviously didn't want it to come out and trash the more expensive GTX but didn't want it out and get whipped by the cheaper GT...

Oh yeah 1 more correction too :)

Conclusion

It's actually wrong to separate these two cards based simply on pure performance along.

Enjoyed reading that.. So again nice one!

26-12-2007, 14:16:24

Kempez
Thanks Bungral :)

All corrected :)

And yep, it did indeed take a long time :)

26-12-2007, 19:25:46

!TIMMY!
If u do buy a Asus 8800GT then you might get it with a 2 slot cooler:

[IMG]http://upload.overclock3d.net/dwn/261919555140/cimg3966.jpg[/IMG]

I thought i was getting one with the stock cooler but hey, although there doesnt seem to be any ram sinks which worries me with ocing (I think most ram on 8800GT's are rated to run @ 1000):

[IMG]http://upload.overclock3d.net/dwn/261921444681/cimg3967.jpg[/IMG]

Just a heads up for people if they go with Asus.

Nice review Kemp, might have to oc this bad boy and get it closer to a 8800GTS 512.

26-12-2007, 19:54:52

Hatman
I just put the EK block on mine looks sooo kl on water although I dont have any sticky pads?? Used AC5 for the ram chips but nothing 4 the mosfets on the card mmm...

27-12-2007, 01:56:51

Deshman

So forget about the ATi completely?

My screen is under 1680x1050. :)

Deshman - Where d'you get the cards? The 8800GT Extreme is £180 delivered, which isn't too bad, but I can't find a 8800GTS Extreme for ~£210.



Got them from specialtech but they're out of stock now.

08-01-2008, 13:22:49

PV5150
A great and informative review as always Kemp, and one which will make a potential purchasing decision easier. Well done!

08-01-2008, 19:28:38

Kempez
Thanks mate, that's the idea and glad you liked the review :D

17-01-2008, 13:32:54

Paradisos
Can please someone be more specific about the noise on the asus card ?
I mean is it really annoiing when playing games like crysis with full load ?
I guess when not playing games it should be no problem right ?

17-01-2008, 14:12:20

Bungral

Can please someone be more specific about the noise on the asus card ?
I mean is it really annoiing when playing games like crysis with full load ?
I guess when not playing games it should be no problem right ?



Its only loud when its at full speed which only happens when the card gets a bit warm.. You can always change at what temps the card switches speed of the fan.. Thats what I do.

My card sits at 20% fan speed up to 55 degs so you can't hear it at all when not gaming then at 57 degs it jumps to 40% still can't hear it. 60 degs and it jumps to 60% and 65 degs it would jump to 80% which you can hear...

100% is a touch annoying but you can't hear it if using a headset obviously.

17-01-2008, 14:24:54

Paradisos
Thanks Bungral !
Although i don't intend to use headset, i guess playing a game with a 5.1 surround sound wont let you notice the fan noice of the gpu, so i guess i will be ok.
x

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