Sapphire 5970 Toxic Review

Dirt 2, Stalker, Crysis Warhead

Sapphire 5970 Toxic Review

Gaming Benchmarks

Moving away from the synthetic testing onto some gaming, we introduce a couple of extra tests to the mix. Firstly in the white corner we have a reference HD5970. In the silver corner we have a 5870 Crossfire setup, which we still think is the best quality per quid choice on the market, and when we tested the standard 5970 it absolutely spanked it.

Dirt 2

Codemasters Dirt 2, as we've often mentioned, benefits greatly from some good optimisation which means it will be playable on almost anything. It does mean that that even extraordinary amounts of power wont have huge benefits, but you can see here from our graph that the Toxic annihilates its 5970 brother and isn't greatly behind the Ares. Certainly nothing that the £400 odd price differential would justify.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat

If ever there was a strange graph, this is it. We've seen a few curious results in our time here at OC3D, but this is mind-blowing. We can only put it down to a couple of things. Either the 10.7 Catalyst update made huge changes to either the performance or image quality of STALKER, the Toxic absolutely eats it for breakfast, or Fraps isn't monitoring it correctly.

We will give it the benefit of the doubt though, because it's been alright in our other testing. In which case if you're a fan of the apocalyptic shooter then you will already be out the door.

Crysis Warhead

Cryteks old Crysis Warhead is the game that just refuses to lay down and die. Despite having proved with Quadfire that it just isn't up to the task of handling huge horsepower, nonetheless it's the game by which all single cards are judged.

The Sapphire 5970 Toxic comfortably keeps the framerate the right side of 60 and, barring a minimum frame-rate issue which is mirrored by the reference 5970 and therefore might be a architectural thing, would definitely be up there with the best. The graph actually belies the smoothness of the experience.

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06-08-2010, 13:14:11

tinytomlogan
Sapphire have weighed into the ultra high-end of the graphics marketplace with their Toxic branded 5970. We take a good look.

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06-08-2010, 13:25:07

killablade
Wow. I'd love one of those for my system! I didn't expect it to overclock THAT well!

By the way, I see the award images have changed? (atleast for the performance award?) I like it, looks nice

06-08-2010, 14:02:25

VonBlade
Yes indeed the awards have all been updated to match the new OC3D logo. If you think the performance one is lush, wait til we bring the others out.

06-08-2010, 14:04:12

silenthill
great review but I really can't understand why in crysis warhead the asus ares kicks the ass of the toxic in the minima and average FPS even in stock clocks - what's going on here guys?

06-08-2010, 14:51:35

VonBlade
Couple of things explain that. Firstly the Toxic had a few less CPU clocks to handle the Physx, and the Toxic is a 5970 whereas the Ares is twin 5870s.

So the CPU will account for most of it, and the tiny extra theoretical grunt of the Ares gives us the few extra. If you look back at the Ares XF results you'll see that Crysis is pants no matter how much hardware you have. So really take it with a pinch of salt.

06-08-2010, 17:25:43

F-alienware
Hmm. Is it me or does that cooler either -

A. Completely rip off the Arctic Accelero Xtreme

B. Use an Arctic Accelero Xtreme.

'cos from where I am sitting it has to be one or the other.

06-08-2010, 17:30:08

F-alienware
Quote:
Originally Posted by VonBlade View Post
If you look back at the Ares XF results you'll see that Crysis is pants no matter how much hardware you have. So really take it with a pinch of salt.
Why use it then? That's a polite question BTW as it could be taken out of context, but why use something that's blatantly crappy and heavily weighted toward the green corner?

It's not just OC3D. Every website is "Crysis this, Crysis that". Seriously, the game is old hat now (and I'm not saying that at your or to you, just saying it in general).

Do the manufacturers (in this case Sapphire) suggest that you use Crysis?

06-08-2010, 17:33:53

tinytomlogan
We use a range of games, some people might play Crysis and want to know what cards play it best. Metro is heavily green team weighted too. Just the way it is and we will always use what ever is POPULAR

The cooler is an AC unit.

06-08-2010, 17:57:21

F-alienware
Ah OK cheers Tom. I thought it looked like an AC Not a bad thing, best cooler for large cards ever IMO.

07-08-2010, 05:50:06

Maverick1dj
Am I reading the Crysis bench properly? How comes the Stock out performs the overclock @ Maximum for the toxic?

Also I like to see bench's for Crysis as I find it very easy to compare real performance, I use it like a control of sort, to gauge GPU real world performance, much more useful than synthetic benchies!

07-08-2010, 07:58:23

silenthill
Quote:
Originally Posted by CRiMiNaLNiNJa View Post

Am I reading the Crysis bench properly? How comes the Stock out performs the overclock @ Maximum for the toxic?

Also I like to see bench's for Crysis as I find it very easy to compare real performance, I use it like a control of sort, to gauge GPU real world performance, much more useful than synthetic benchies!
yes I noticed that but it's only happening with the maximum FPS.sometimes that does happen when I OC my 480's in crysis

07-08-2010, 07:58:44

tinytomlogan
Sometime the results can be a bit strange, just the way it is dude, maybe crysis didnt like the overclock. Without spending hours researching every result we'll never know.

07-08-2010, 08:39:55

silenthill
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post

Sometime the results can be a bit strange, just the way it is dude, maybe crysis didnt like the overclock. Without spending hours researching every result we'll never know.
This is just a suggestion I noticed some of the websites and magazines don’t put the maximum FPS they say it doesn’t reflect the true performance of the graphic card because most important in game play is the minimum and average FPS which actually shows you if you can play the game between 30FPS and 60FPS which is considered (very playable) and also the maximum FPS behaviour is very strange when overclocking the GPU so why don’t you scrap the maximum from your benchmarks to avoid these kinds of issues I know the maximum FPS shows the muscles of the GPU but it’s not really true performance.

*stop making your replies bold*

07-08-2010, 08:55:41

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by silenthill View Post

This is just a suggestion I noticed some of the websites and magazines dont put the maximum FPS they say it doesnt reflect the true performance of the graphic card because most important in game play is the minimum and average FPS which actually shows you if you can play the game between 30FPS and 60FPS which is considered (very playable) and also the maximum FPS behaviour is very strange when overclocking the GPU so why dont you scrap the maximum from your benchmarks to avoid these kinds of issues I know the maximum FPS shows the muscles of the GPU but its not really true performance.

*stop making your replies bold*
We put all the details up fella, we are pretty sure if you are reading our reviews your not a complete nub and can formulate your own oppinions. The fact you are saying that average is more important means you dont actually 'need' us to remove the max

PS - stop bolding your replies.

22-08-2010, 08:48:55

Telltale
"The biggest compliment we can pay, and it is a big one, is that if this had arrived before Ares we'd have looked at that differently"

But the Toxic DID arrive before the Ares. You can see the date on this review is April 22nd; over 2 months before the arrival of the Ares.

*LINK REMOVED*

22-08-2010, 09:05:48

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telltale View Post

"The biggest compliment we can pay, and it is a big one, is that if this had arrived before Ares we'd have looked at that differently"

But the Toxic DID arrive before the Ares. You can see the date on this[/url] review is April 22nd; over 2 months before the arrival of the Ares.
With us matey, we had not tested it.

22-08-2010, 11:56:56

Telltale
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post

With us matey, we had not tested it.
Oh ok sorry, you literally meant arriving with you, not just on the market.

30-10-2010, 03:16:36

MrHDizzla
I still don't 100% get the difference between your everyday 5970 and the ASUS Ares.... looking at the specs on AMD website it looks to me as if the 5970 has just double the specifications of the 5870..

sorry about my ignorance

30-10-2010, 07:23:33

Mr. Strawberry
holy thread revival batman

a normal 5970 is basicly 2 5870 chips underclocked to 5850 speeds

where was the ares, toxic and so on are full on 5870 chips
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