PowerColor R9 290 Review

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PowerColor R9 290 Review and Comparison

Unigine Heaven

We've reached the last benchmark and it is appropriate that it is completely unpredictable. So far given our results we'd guess than in Heaven the 290 would be okay at 1080 and poor at 2560, with the addition of the 8xMSAA only exacerbating this. Whereas in actuality although the PowerColor R9 290 isn't a patch on the bigger nVidia cards, it's much closer to the 290X than we've seen in other tests and miles ahead of the GTX770.

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18-11-2013, 05:58:37

tinytomlogan
http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/artic...095630715l.jpg

Following the R9 290X, it's time to take a look at its slightly reduced sibling, the 290.


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18-11-2013, 06:32:27

s13viper
Have to say, i'm pretty surprised by your results.

Its completely different to every single other review out there.

So i'm not really sure what to make of it.

edit : ill add i am now using 3x 290's....on water though and my results are insanely different (using 1 card of course)

18-11-2013, 06:33:01

barnsley
Good Ol' PowerColor :'). Top lads for not being wimps. To be fair the performance is exactly what I would want for a card but no cooler means no sale for me.

18-11-2013, 06:41:50

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by s13viper View Post
Have to say, i'm pretty surprised by your results.

Its completely different to every single other review out there.

So i'm not really sure what to make of it.

edit : ill add i am now using 3x 290's....on water though and my results are insanely different (using 1 card of course)
We dont look at other results we look at the results our rig gives us.

I have screenshots for every single result too (that goes for all reviews)

18-11-2013, 06:46:22

Rastalovich
It's a decent enough card for the price. The saviour for the 95 degrees, I feel, is the rear exhausting fan. But still, if you're going to buy one, know you've got to deal with it.

Still can't wrap my head around the Gigabyte/MSI 780 results. One is better than the ti and the other isn't, and yet there's no difference. Lottery I guess.

18-11-2013, 06:54:42

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rastalovich View Post
It's a decent enough card for the price. The saviour for the 95 degrees, I feel, is the rear exhausting fan. But still, if you're going to buy one, know you've got to deal with it.

Still can't wrap my head around the Gigabyte/MSI 780 results. One is better than the ti and the other isn't, and yet there's no difference. Lottery I guess.
Yes matey lottery, and the MSI overclocked like a train - thats why I used it in my own rig

18-11-2013, 07:17:35

s13viper
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
We dont look at other results we look at the results our rig gives us.

I have screenshots for every single result too (that goes for all reviews)
Oh i don't doubt you for a second.

But something is still wrong here. Almost all of your results are well off what i got.

A small example, crysis3 @ 5760x1080 0aa, max setting.I was getting 28fps average, 25fps min on a single card on air.

So what does this mean? Well i don't know exactly.

Mine are now under water, heavily overclocked and in trifire so the results are obviously skewed now.

I defiantly do agree the stock cooler is rubbish and too loud though. Get them under water though and its a very very different story. Exceptional performance (higher than 2x780ti's for $300 less) here in Australia anyway.

18-11-2013, 07:35:23

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by s13viper View Post
Oh i don't doubt you for a second.

But something is still wrong here. Almost all of your results are well off what i got.

A small example, crysis3 @ 5760x1080 0aa, max setting.I was getting 28fps average, 25fps min on a single card on air.

So what does this mean? Well i don't know exactly.

Mine are now under water, heavily overclocked and in trifire so the results are obviously skewed now.

I defiantly do agree the stock cooler is rubbish and too loud though. Get them under water though and its a very very different story. Exceptional performance (higher than 2x780ti's for $300 less) here in Australia anyway.
Bit narrow minded if you think because our results are different we dont get the same results. Youd have to have the exact same game settings and same system to be able to compare dude. THATS why we always use the same rig and the same game settings. Plus we always play the same part of the game too because that can make a huge difference.

But hey Im not going to sit here and explain why you dont understand stuff

18-11-2013, 07:42:24

Anusha
270x beating 290 in some benches? are you high Tom? someone's tampered your results :P

in some benches, the overclocked Titan is slower than the stock Titan.

when are you going to get rid of stupid Flash based graphs? you know browsers in smart phones don't support Flash right? you are losing a lot of viewers because of that.

18-11-2013, 08:07:33

s13viper
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Bit narrow minded if you think because our results are different we dont get the same results. Youd have to have the exact same game settings and same system to be able to compare dude. THATS why we always use the same rig and the same game settings. Plus we always play the same part of the game too because that can make a huge difference.

But hey Im not going to sit here and explain why you dont understand stuff
I understand that mate lol Ive been around in this game as long as you have :P

But seriously, something is wrong here. We aren't talking about a few fps or a few anomalies here and there. Everything is out and by large margins.

In general i'm a big fan of yours and have purchased several items based on your very long ass but awesome video's.

But i feel in this case either your card is defective, your test system went spaz, or a driver issue as its so terribly different to everyone else's and not by a few %, but by entire orders of magnitude.

ps. Water cooling literally makes these like different cards, the sooner you bring out a review/video on watercooling them i feel your "ati" audience will appreciate it.

18-11-2013, 08:47:01

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by s13viper View Post
I understand that mate lol Ive been around in this game as long as you have :P

But seriously, something is wrong here. We aren't talking about a few fps or a few anomalies here and there. Everything is out and by large margins.

In general i'm a big fan of yours and have purchased several items based on your very long ass but awesome video's.

But i feel in this case either your card is defective, your test system went spaz, or a driver issue as its so terribly different to everyone else's and not by a few %, but by entire orders of magnitude.

ps. Water cooling literally makes these like different cards, the sooner you bring out a review/video on watercooling them i feel your "ati" audience will appreciate it.
Same with the nVidia varient mate. Thats the problem. Do one and you need to do the other and when you overclock an Nvidia they actually open the gap up further. IMHO the AMD's are not all that when overclocked.


Also the one score you refered to about the 270X being in front is tomb raider - the only game with that TressFX feature - maybe this just works better on the old hardware for now.....

18-11-2013, 09:08:21

s13viper
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Same with the nVidia varient mate. Thats the problem. Do one and you need to do the other and when you overclock an Nvidia they actually open the gap up further. IMHO the AMD's are not all that when overclocked.


Also the one score you refered to about the 270X being in front is tomb raider - the only game with that TressFX feature - maybe this just works better on the old hardware for now.....
Fair enough. I can only go by the difference it made in mine. We are talking 1290mhz on one, 1280 on the second and 1305 on the third. The difference zero throttling and huge core clocks make is crazy.

Along with near zero noise and 61deg loaded temps. With the waterblocks it worked out the same price as 2 780ti's which won't come close. Yes you can put 780's and the like under water too, but with its stock cooler so good there isn't the same gains to be had for the majority of people.

I still stand by my decision.

Staying on air? a single 780ti
water? 2x 290's by far

18-11-2013, 09:21:01

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by s13viper View Post
Fair enough. I can only go by the difference it made in mine. We are talking 1290mhz on one, 1280 on the second and 1305 on the third. The difference zero throttling and huge core clocks make is crazy.

Along with near zero noise and 61deg loaded temps. With the waterblocks it worked out the same price as 2 780ti's which won't come close. Yes you can put 780's and the like under water too, but with its stock cooler so good there isn't the same gains to be had for the majority of people.

I still stand by my decision.

Staying on air? a single 780ti
water? 2x 290's by far

Ive tried clocking this one with 100% fans matey and it just got past 1100mhz before artifacting - Id say youve won the silicone lottery - that or Ive lost

18-11-2013, 09:29:00

looz
100% fans, did you remember to take required safety measures in order to protect your hearing?
http://i.imgur.com/gjFo2N4.png

18-11-2013, 09:45:26

s13viper
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Ive tried clocking this one with 100% fans matey and it just got past 1100mhz before artifacting - Id say youve won the silicone lottery - that or Ive lost
mine are on water, just to be clear.

as you have mentioned, huge overclocks on the stock air cooler are a waste of time. I am a noise freak so i didn't even bother oc'ing it with the stock cooler, just popped it in to make sure they all worked before slapping the water blocks on.

18-11-2013, 09:50:59

tinytomlogan
I tested on 100% fans just to see what might be capable. I would have needed to have the rig outside the house if I was going to live with it

18-11-2013, 11:33:56

Rastalovich
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Yes matey lottery, and the MSI overclocked like a train - thats why I used it in my own rig
Mad. Unless the manufs want to provide 10x cards to test, there's no real way around it. You can only test what you got, play the hand you're dealt.

lol imagine text 10x cards on top of what you do already to get yet another average >.<

18-11-2013, 11:42:19

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rastalovich View Post
Mad. Unless the manufs want to provide 10x cards to test, there's no real way around it. You can only test what you got, play the hand you're dealt.

lol imagine text 10x cards on top of what you do already to get yet another average >.<
Exactly dude, it is nice when someone understands these factors!

18-11-2013, 12:11:21

murphy7801
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Exactly dude, it is nice when someone understands these factors!
I think alot people get this just we arnt bitchin or talking about it since its a given.

18-11-2013, 12:51:28

CEUOTC
Have the Sapphire R9 290 and have been plagued with a black screen fault after every cold boot.

Will have to RMA it and see if the next card is any better.

18-11-2013, 15:34:58

Xavi C
What stock clocks did your sample have? What fan speed did it max at?

23-11-2013, 09:18:14

mojothejester
I've seen different results from different reviewers, so I'm looking forward to non-reference card reviews. Will OC3D review one of them when they arrive?

23-11-2013, 10:33:55

cooperman
Quote:
Originally Posted by CEUOTC View Post
Have the Sapphire R9 290 and have been plagued with a black screen fault after every cold boot.

Will have to RMA it and see if the next card is any better.
There is a new beta driver for that problem.
AMD Catalyst 13.11 Beta9.4 Driver for Windows.
+May resolve intermittent black screens or display loss observed on some AMD Radeon™ R9 290X and AMD Radeon R9 290 graphics cards+
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd...1_betav9.4.exe

09-12-2013, 09:22:29

ivy223
this thing is loud!!!!

09-12-2013, 09:31:36

CEUOTC
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooperman View Post
There is a new beta driver for that problem.
AMD Catalyst 13.11 Beta9.4 Driver for Windows.
+May resolve intermittent black screens or display loss observed on some AMD Radeon™ R9 290X and AMD Radeon R9 290 graphics cards+
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd...1_betav9.4.exe
Sorry should have got back, new card with the same drivers no black screen, works like a charm if a little loud
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