nVidia GTX780 Review

Sleeping Dogs

nVidia GTX780 Review

Sleeping Dogs

The adventures of Wei-Shin have rarely been smoother than on the GTX780. It's a big improvement upon the GTX680, and only 3 frames behind the GTX Titan. Once again we see that the reduction in CUDA cores and GDDR5 doesn't make much of a difference at higher resolutions and, if anything, the gap between the two cards narrows.

 

 

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23-05-2013, 08:51:37

tinytomlogan
The GTX780 is finally here, the review all the Titan owners should be worried about. We get to grips with nVidia's first 700 series release.

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23-05-2013, 08:52:38

Cru
8 mins till NDA lift, can't wait

23-05-2013, 09:03:35

WillSK
Wow... better get saving, this card looks fantastic.

23-05-2013, 09:04:48

UkGouki
just read the whole review i cant beleive how close this is to the titan and in some of the benchmarks beats it amazing considering this is a cut down titan..

23-05-2013, 09:06:38

Ghosthud1
Im skint and this thing is a beauty

http://i.imgur.com/D9dQr.gif

23-05-2013, 09:08:16

Spiderz
Like this on the initial drivers too? The card is a monster at a price that, while steep, isn't mind-boggling expensive (looking at ARES II and Titan). Time to get saving.

The ball is in your court now AMD, lets see if they can match/beat this.

23-05-2013, 09:08:18

maniac
lol you got me
Quote:
If you've skipped through our graphs and just want to know what we think then firstly, shame on you.

23-05-2013, 09:17:22

SieB
Not bad, still don't think it's enough of a performance leap over the 7970 or 680 that is worth an extra 150-250.

It doesn't beat the 680 or 7970 in everything and in some cases it hardly beats them at all. Not saying it's a bad card, just that it's highly priced for the performance and cards with aftermarket coolers are going to cost even more.

23-05-2013, 09:28:52

antihero
649€ where I live. Fuck, I was hoping for 499€. On the other hand seeing how good it is..

23-05-2013, 09:46:09

BradKing
It looks like a great 680 replacement, but at 150 euros over the 680 introduction price, it doesn't feel like it's worth it I was hoping this would come in at 550 and that it would be the best card to go for, for a 1440p rig, but at these prices I am looking at dual cards again..

23-05-2013, 09:47:12

Bozzy
If EVGA stick this on step up then they have my money

Edit : SCRATCH THAT : 740 Euros on step up..

23-05-2013, 10:13:33

yassarikhan786
Really impressed with the results. The price is a bit steep for my liking, but the performance speaks for itself. I will be waiting for the new batch of AMD cards before I make a decision on upgrading my graphics card.

23-05-2013, 10:14:23

Cru
most likely gonna get two of those, the MSI ones if possible, but haven't seen them yet

23-05-2013, 10:15:59

remember300
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-e...cores-2304-dp-
this is the only non ref cooler ive seen what do you guys think?
Do you think it would be worth going for that or just getting the cheapest which seems to be the msi card

23-05-2013, 10:18:40

yassarikhan786
Quote:
Originally Posted by remember300 View Post
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-e...cores-2304-dp-
this is the only non ref cooler ive seen what do you guys think?
Do you think it would be worth going for that or just getting the cheapest which seems to be the msi card
I still think the stock cooler looks better. The Palit and Zotac 780's are the cheapest on scan.

23-05-2013, 10:18:59

WillSK
Quote:
Originally Posted by remember300 View Post
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-e...cores-2304-dp-
this is the only non ref cooler ive seen what do you guys think?
Do you think it would be worth going for that or just getting the cheapest which seems to be the msi card
Yeah been seeing the trailer etc. for the new evga cooler popping up on facebook. Aesthetically I think it looks awesome but i await actual results before i make my final decision

23-05-2013, 10:21:14

remember300
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillSK View Post
Yeah been seeing the trailer etc. for the new evga cooler popping up on facebook. Aesthetically I think it looks awesome but i await actual results before i make my final decision
yeah im not sure i can wait a week lol

23-05-2013, 10:40:15

AverageNinja
TTL! My mom still didn't allow me to get myself a cookie! ;_;

23-05-2013, 10:45:50

UkGouki
just finished watching the video review man this card is a beast...

23-05-2013, 11:05:25

remember300
does anyone know if there will be free games like you get with the 6XX series

23-05-2013, 11:15:07

yassarikhan786
Quote:
Originally Posted by remember300 View Post
does anyone know if there will be free games like you get with the 6XX series
I think it's too early to say, but I'm sure Nvidia will introduce some form of promotion. Just wait a bit dude

23-05-2013, 11:17:27

remember300
Quote:
Originally Posted by yassarikhan786 View Post
I think it's too early to say, but I'm sure Nvidia will introduce some form of promotion. Just wait a bit dude
yeah i know but i dont wanna buy a 780 then find i miss out of the promotion

23-05-2013, 11:25:28

dipzy
The evga step up programs is tempting me so much right now, with only 2 days to decide

23-05-2013, 11:26:29

AverageNinja

23-05-2013, 11:39:06

SolarNova
Even b4 the release i was keeping up to date with all rumors and leaks, and things looked promising. it was just the price that was gunna be the decider. And thankfully it landed slap bang in the middle of all predictions including my own.

Im deffinatly getting a OC'd 780..probably a Gigabyte , Asus, or EVGA.. which ever gets the better reviews and benches.

If the Gigabyte Windforce one reviewed here is anything to go by,, then wow. Titan performance, somtimes more so ..for 200 less.

Im gunna give it 2 weeks or so for the OC'd ones to release, for prices to stabilize, and for reviews to come out. Then im pulling the trigger...just gotta keep myself from buying one to soon lol.
Gunna be such a massive upgrade over my current Gigabyte 1gb 560ti (384 core) SOC edition GPU.

23-05-2013, 11:40:29

dipzy
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageNinja View Post
yup for the SR2, my step up 90 days ends on 25th of this month

23-05-2013, 11:41:56

AverageNinja
How much would you need to pay extra?
If it's not too much, I'd say get it!

23-05-2013, 11:44:14

dipzy
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageNinja View Post
How much would you need to pay extra?
If it's not too much, I'd say get it!
about 300 euros extra per card then i can wait to the hydrocopper blocks to be released

23-05-2013, 11:44:35

Bozzy
The are slightly more expensive than place like scan . 740 Euros for the ref version. For me stepping up from the 670FTW would mean a cost of about 330

23-05-2013, 11:45:36

badtaylorx
id def. wait for one of the board partners to come out with their versions...

we didnt see it with Titan because Nvidia said no to the custom pcbs/coolers....

but specifically because of gpu boost 2's temp based clocking,

a card with either MSI's or Asus' proprietary power reg/delivery AND custom cooling, could be a monster lurking in the shadows ....

exciting times my friends ....

23-05-2013, 11:45:45

AverageNinja
€300 extra per card?! I don't really think that's worth it.
For that price you could almost get 2 extra for Quad-SLI!
I'd say go the same way as B-Negative and then just get tri-sli.
EDIT: 1500th post!!!

23-05-2013, 11:48:29

dipzy
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageNinja View Post
300 extra per card?! I don't really think that's worth it.
For that price you could almost get 2 extra for Quad-SLI!
I'd say go the same way as B-Negative and then just get tri-sli.
EDIT: 1500th post!!!
lol congrats on the 1500 posts

I would tri sli but im not a fan of it and the only blocks i like are the hydro copper. I wouldn't loose any money from the 670's plus sold the games that came with them for a good fair amount (90 )

23-05-2013, 11:50:35

AverageNinja
^^ Yeah, I understand.
If you wouldn't lose any money, then go for it.
And thanks Took me more than a year to get this far

23-05-2013, 11:54:50

remember300
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolarNova View Post
Even b4 the release i was keeping up to date with all rumors and leaks, and things looked promising. it was just the price that was gunna be the decider. And thankfully it landed slap bang in the middle of all predictions including my own.

Im deffinatly getting a OC'd 780..probably a Gigabyte , Asus, or EVGA.. which ever gets the better reviews and benches.

If the Gigabyte Windforce one reviewed here is anything to go by,, then wow. Titan performance, somtimes more so ..for 200 less.

Im gunna give it 2 weeks or so for the OC'd ones to release, for prices to stabilize, and for reviews to come out. Then im pulling the trigger...just gotta keep myself from buying one to soon lol.
Gunna be such a massive upgrade over my current Gigabyte 1gb 560ti (384 core) SOC edition GPU.
haha i know the feeling im going from a asus 560 ti 2gb,

23-05-2013, 11:55:42

iBeInspire
Only thing that made me think is TTL saying how all the range will be this much of an increase over the previous gen. How is a bios flash and an OC going to change a 680 that much?

23-05-2013, 11:59:10

dipzy
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageNinja View Post
^^ Yeah, I understand.
If you wouldn't lose any money, then go for it.
And thanks Took me more than a year to get this far
That 300 euro extra was based on the fact that evga had the 780 listed for 749 euros but now its 659 euros

23-05-2013, 12:01:03

Vicey
Way overpriced. NVIDIA are kidding themselves thinking they are way better than they actually are with these prices.

I have an NVIDIA GPU in every computer I own right now. Laptop, Desktop and Server. But I can't wait for AMD to release their next generation and take some of the shine off these 780's and Titans because NVIDIA has got way up themselves in my opinion.

23-05-2013, 12:20:39

SieB
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicey View Post
Way overpriced. NVIDIA are kidding themselves thinking they are way better than they actually are with these prices.

I have an NVIDIA GPU in every computer I own right now. Laptop, Desktop and Server. But I can't wait for AMD to release their next generation and take some of the shine off these 780's and Titans because NVIDIA has got way up themselves in my opinion.
My thoughts exactly.

I don't understand why people would pay over the odds for these cards when you can save between 150 - 250+ by overclocking a 680 or a 7970 ghz edition to get near enough the same performance.

Each to their own though.

23-05-2013, 13:52:16

Ulijin
Ulijin is "Angry", "epeen", "not sensible", "doesn't give a wank about money" times 2...

I almost feel a little insulted ;-)

But anyway great review as always Tom!

a TTL Fanboi...

23-05-2013, 17:08:12

vish93
hey guys in this video TTL mentioned the AMD NDA, and it was not graphics. Could it be new fx cpus? because i need an upgrade

23-05-2013, 17:11:20

DarthDudo420
Quote:
Originally Posted by vish93 View Post
hey guys in this video ttl mentioned the amd nda, and it was not graphics. Could it be new fx cpus? Because i need an upgrade
amd apu

23-05-2013, 17:24:32

vish93
oh i wanted to give amd some money. well haswell it is then

24-05-2013, 12:38:10

NoPrisoners
Bought 2 EVGA GTX 780's and 2 EK-FC Titan blocks. They fit perfectly and are working very well, keeping the GPU's around 42C under load.

24-05-2013, 12:57:33

remember300
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoPrisoners View Post
Bought 2 EVGA GTX 780's and 2 EK-FC Titan blocks. They fit perfectly and are working very well, keeping the GPU's around 42C under load.
sounds very good how are they for gaming?

24-05-2013, 15:15:12

NoPrisoners
Quote:
Originally Posted by remember300 View Post
sounds very good how are they for gaming?
They are working very well, destroys everything at 2560x1440. BF3 getting ~90-100 fps with everything maxed. Overkill really, but bought for benching, initial 3D Mark scores good,

Fire Strike 15498
Cloud Gate 37518

Both cards are looking good for +1100 MHz core oc's hopefully improve the scores.

24-05-2013, 15:57:32

remember300
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoPrisoners View Post
They are working very well, destroys everything at 2560x1440. BF3 getting ~90-100 fps with everything maxed. Overkill really, but bought for benching, initial 3D Mark scores good,

Fire Strike 15498
Cloud Gate 37518

Both cards are looking good for +1100 MHz core oc's hopefully improve the scores.
ah fair enough, bench marking only appeals for me when trying to stress the system.
But glad they are awesome for you

13-06-2013, 05:22:50

Bozzy
Sent my 670ftw off for step up.. should get my 780 in a couple of weeks.

21-06-2013, 17:21:51

Valsam75
What nvidia owners fail to see is the not-so-far future that belongs to AMD (gaming wise) .. why ?
The major turn is not because of power (which is greater only in openCL)
but because every single next-gen console has opted for AMD's GCN
architecture which translates that third party game developers will
design games optimised by default for AMD Graphics.
they have clearly stated that by themselves in E3 2013.

Not to mention that windows 8.1 (full windows versions) tablets and notebooks also chosen APUs (A10s and upcoming Kaveri steamroller based cpus & Radeon Gpus).

so.. The market trend is going to AMD in consoles, mobile computers e.t.c

More and more applications and even the very operating system will
evolve around OpenCL instead of Cuda and even Adobe has begun
in her latest CC suite adopting the same strategy.

so nobody will actually care in the next year or two for PhysX and nVidia
not because of lack of power but because of lack of support and optimization issues. AMD's technologies have begun and will be favored.

The console game market has set the rules for pc gaming as well.

---

in the future starting with the game Battlefield 4, whenever you see the logo "Gaming Evolved" will mean 100% crossfire scalability.. not to mention sabotage against nvidia that forbids her to release new drivers before the game enters the market. In the future you will see more and more of "AMD ESPIONAGE" ))
So .. Remember remember the 5th of november. Its not about power, its about compatibility and support.

21-06-2013, 20:31:13

Vicey
Valsam75, It doesn't actually matter what GPU the consoles have. The XBOX 360 had an ATi X1900 XT equivalent GPU and the Game Cube, Wii and Wii U all had ATi/AMD Graphics. The PS3 had a 7800GT equivalent NVIDIA GPU and it was slower than the X1900 XT present in the XBOX 360.

Logic like you just stated would indicate that if 2 out of the 3 consoles last generation used AMD that most games should be optimised for AMD. Especially if one of those AMD GPU's was the fastest out of all three consoles.

But here we stand, with the GTX 780 and Titan being the fastest single GPU cards available.

Something you need to think about is that as time has gone on the GPU's have moved to a many core GPGPU architecture where compute units have become very generic and similar. NVIDIA has gone for slightly more brawny cores than AMD while AMD has gone for more puny cores but a lot more of them, but even so the architectures are very similar.

What this means is optimising for one architecture or another really doesn't make as much of a difference as it used to. We live in an age now where the top end cards (before 780 and Titan atleast) were within 5% of each other in every game.

And about your OpenCL vs Cuda thing. NVIDIA cards run OpenCL too. That is one of the feathers in NVIDIA's cap, it runs their own CUDA and OpenCL while AMD only supports OpenCL. And the OpenCL performance on NVIDIA cards is very good, especially on the Titan range which has full unlocked double precision floating point.

Another thing to consider is that you degraded PhysX and yet the PS4 and XBOX One will both have PhysX available from NVIDIA. You don't have to take my word for it you can view NVIDIA's own press release for the XBOX One here: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Release...nsole-997.aspx

And IGN covered NVIDIA's announcement for PhysX on the PS4 here: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/03/0...-playstation-4

And about your AMD espionage comments and forced delayed NVIDIA driver releases: Don't be ridiculous.
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