nVidia GTX770 Review

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So being a GTX680 by another name, perhaps you were all expecting the card on the left?

Thankfully that isn't the case at all, with the new Titan PCB and cooler at the heart of the GTX770. If anything it only emphasises how gorgeous it is when compared to the acres of black plastic that the GTX680 had to suffer with.

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We know that looks are, rightly or wrongly, a large reason why we all want certain items of hardware. There is a ridiculous amount of pressure from the e-peen brigade to have the biggest and best, which is why we love that nVidia has homogenised their range. Here, take a guess which is the £800 GTX Titan, the £550 GTX780 and the £330 GTX770.

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As you can see, only the location of the barcode (ignoring the extra GDDR5 on the back of the Titan) gives a clue which card is which. So you can have a powerful GPU that didn't bust the bank, without it being obvious that you're not running the very top of the line number.

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30-05-2013, 08:50:28

tinytomlogan
If the GTX Titan and GTX780 are too pricey for you, perhaps the GTX770 will be the weapon of choice. We find out.

http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/artic...133748177l.JPG


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30-05-2013, 08:53:38

Feronix
Thanks, was thinking about getting one

Does the NDA for the lower end GTX 7xx cards lift now too or do we have to wait longer for them?

30-05-2013, 09:19:18

Spiderz
That new NVIDIA reference cooler looks the dogs bollocks, said it with the titan and 780, will say it again. I still think NVIDIA are a bit high on their pricing brackets just now but this one is a bit nicer than the last two cards and a lot easier to justify.

Nice work with the trolls at the start of the video too and another good review.

30-05-2013, 09:19:20

SuB
This has turned me from Titan to dual 780, to tri 770.. i jus't don't know!

30-05-2013, 09:19:58

barnsley
Best looking stock cooler ever. Must be said :P.

+1 to the NDA on lower end cards, I want to know about the 760 and whether it'd be worth forking out for two in the near future or just getting another 7870 for when the frame issues are sorted for crossfire.

30-05-2013, 09:20:04

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuB View Post
This has turned me from Titan to dual 780, to tru 770.. i jus't don't know!
In your case 780

30-05-2013, 09:26:05

SuB
Dual 780's it is :P

30-05-2013, 09:44:28

SieB
Awesome card for the price, glad to see Nvidia releasing a card that is worth the money.
330 is a bargain, prices for the Nvidia 6xx and AMD 7xxx are bound to drop now as well.

Still a non brainer now though, you would be stupid if you bought a 7970 over a 770 or depending on price drops a 670/680 over a 7950.

Still, don't care what anyone says, it is still a 680 with a higher clock and it's unfair to compare the "next gen" Nvidia cards against "previous gen" AMD cards performance wise. Especially when they are a good couple of hundred quid more but don't offer much of performance increase.

Discussing facts seem to = fanboy + trolling these days though (or it's what people want you to think) so lets not say more on prices and the rest of it.

Nvida has done good with the 770, i'm tempted to grab one myself TBH but i'll wait and see price drops for the 680 first.

30-05-2013, 09:52:29

antihero
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuB View Post
This has turned me from Titan to dual 780, to tri 770.. i jus't don't know!
Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same! Maybe Tom could do a comparison video of the three.

30-05-2013, 09:53:22

MrKambo
Just watched this, and i think the 770 is actually gonna be a very popular card, its priced right and does perform well, and that memory speed Christ thats quick!

all in all another good review Tom, cheers

30-05-2013, 10:00:14

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero View Post
Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same! Maybe Tom could do a comparison video of the three.

I think the 770 review has ALL of the results in already... durrr.

30-05-2013, 10:08:25

antihero
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
I think the 770 review has ALL of the results in already... durrr.
What I meant was GTX Titan vs. GTX 780 SLI vs. GTX 770 3-Way SLI.

30-05-2013, 10:10:16

Excalabur50
Nice review as always and I LURV the new look to these new cards they are so lush, and nice to see the performance match the looks.

30-05-2013, 10:51:10

badtaylorx
hmmm.... so basically this years new car model has a new bodystyle, keeps the same basic engine, but upgrades the shit out of the fuel delivery system pumping out some extra ponies....

not bad at all. doubt ill be trading in my w/c 670sli setup tho

30-05-2013, 11:31:13

AverageNinja
Ah, so that was the lightning card I saw in the live 780 review!
Amazing value card! Faster and cheaper than the 680!

30-05-2013, 12:04:02

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero View Post
What I meant was GTX Titan vs. GTX 780 SLI vs. GTX 770 3-Way SLI.
You realise how close the titan and 780 are yeah? And Im not going to do 3x770

30-05-2013, 12:05:37

MacLeod
Just more proof God hates me. A little over a month ago I bought a GTX670 for $400. Now here is a 770 which is faster than the 680 for......wait for it.....$400.

30-05-2013, 13:46:52

Zoot
So the stories of BIOS flashing the 680 to get you a 770 weren't far off the mark after all then.

Still though, a good card for a good price. It seems most reviews have it trading blows with the 7970 GHz Edition, which is slightly more expensive. No doubt AMD will respond with price cuts.

It's been a bit of a rollercoaster as regards the graphics crown lately. AMD had it with the 7970, nVidia claimed it with the 680, AMD claims it back with the 7970 GHz Edition and improved drivers, and now nVidia have claimed it again with the 780 and 770.

All this is good for us consumers, even if it is just an overclocked version of the last gen card.

30-05-2013, 14:16:43

Feronix
Palit also announced theirs and I reaaaaally like the look of the basic one:

http://static.scan.co.uk/images/products/2149918-a.jpg

The other are here:
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/05...GB-and-4GB.jpg

I'm all for all-black cards. While I love the look of the new stock coolers, they wouldn't really suit many colour schemes

30-05-2013, 14:36:39

Spiderz
Looked at scan and aria, none of them have the stock cooler, it is all 3rd party coolers on them all

30-05-2013, 15:43:13

MacLeod
A couple of the reviews are saying you're probably not going to see any reference cards at retail. Not sure why tho. Wouldn't matter to me. Aftermarket coolers are better anyway but I guess it would make it easier for SLI.

30-05-2013, 16:01:39

antihero
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
You realise how close the titan and 780 are yeah? And Im not going to do 3x770
Then at least answer me this: Do you think three factory-overclocked 770s will outperform two reference model 780s?

30-05-2013, 16:04:20

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero View Post
Then at least answer me this: Do you think three factory-overclocked 770s will outperform two reference model 780s?
Considering for it to run properly youd need a board with really good PCIE layout and lots of PCIE lanes..... whats the point?

30-05-2013, 16:17:18

antihero
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Considering for it to run properly youd need a board with really good PCIE layout and lots of PCIE lanes..... whats the point?
Chance of getting equal or better performance for less expense so I can spend more on other parts.

30-05-2013, 16:21:42

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero View Post
Chance of getting equal or better performance for less expense so I can spend more on other parts.
Sometimes it will create more hassle and make the rig technically worse. IE 3 gpu's will get hot and noisey.... You are just being a bit narrow minded.

2 GPU's is where the sensible is at.

feel like you dad ffs.

30-05-2013, 16:38:17

antihero
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Sometimes it will create more hassle and make the rig technically worse. IE 3 gpu's will get hot and noisey.... You are just being a bit narrow minded.

2 GPU's is where the sensible is at.

feel like you dad ffs.
Really Tom, I'm surprised at your intolerance. I don't see why I would spend nearly 1300€ on something without looking at other options first. You wouldn't tell someone to get a Titan just because it's the fastest single-GPU card ever, would you? I haven't bought anything yet so it's all good.

Edit:
If you can't talk to me in a way that isn't condescending then don't bother with my questions lol..

30-05-2013, 16:43:27

tinytomlogan
Ive explained already mate....... Plus tbh youre lucky you got a reply at all. Some of us have been working 14/16 hour days for the last 2 weeks straight........

30-05-2013, 17:56:31

Roooker
I would like to see more game benchmarks in future reviews..


Other than that:
THIS will give you a nice table on all the 770 available.

30-05-2013, 18:03:51

FTLN
Rebadged 680 - Better Prices - Nuff Said

Your only gonna get titan pcb and cooler if you get nvidia reference ......

And Reference are not gonna be around untill all these fake 770s have been sold ....


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ASUS GeForce GTX 770 Direct CU II 2 GBhttp://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ages/front.jpg


ASUS GeForce GTX 680 Direct CU II 2 GB
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ages/front.jpg

PNY GTX 770
http://www.topachat.com/boutique/img...1007073802.jpg

PNY GTX 680
http://blog.pny.com/Portals/40268/im...esized-600.jpg

30-05-2013, 18:25:28

Spiderz
Quote:
Originally Posted by FTLN View Post
Rebadged 680 - Better Prices - Nuff Said

Your only gonna get titan pcb and cooler if you get nvidia reference ......

And Reference are not gonna be around untill all these fake 770s have been sold ....

(pictures galore)

Now that is the true kick in the teeth from the vendors

30-05-2013, 18:31:54

MSIRawZ
Look like Inno3D are the only ones using Titan reference cooler so far. Shame.

30-05-2013, 18:38:12

FTLN
Only one I have found so far that has updated pcb is the gigabyte windforce ............

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aria_RawZ View Post
Look like Inno3D are the only ones using Titan reference cooler so far. Shame.
Are you getting some in Rawz ?

30-05-2013, 18:52:12

NeverBackDown
Quick question... How come you multiply the memory clock by 4 to get the effective memory clock? What's the difference?

30-05-2013, 19:08:57

FTLN
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
Quick question... How come you multiply the memory clock by 4 to get the effective memory clock? What's the difference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDDR5

30-05-2013, 20:17:53

NeverBackDown
^^ I still don't see why you would multiply by four...

30-05-2013, 22:32:17

qhfreddy
I'm pretty impressed, probably am going to get one of these unless the GTX670 Sig2 comes down to around what 660 prices have been.

GDDR5 is basically "quad-channel" memory

30-05-2013, 22:58:32

Vicey
Incase anyone hasn't seen it yet, EVGA is offering a free backplane to all EVGA GTX 770 purchasers if you go to their website and register your card. Offer ends in July.

I think they are doing this as a way to save face since the reference NVIDIA cooler that is featured in all the reviews of the GTX 770 is not included on any of their cards.

Good of them to offer the free backplane I suppose but it is a shame the reference cooler isn't used on their cards and it looks like most OEM's are not offering it.

30-05-2013, 23:03:42

qhfreddy
Yeah too bad they don't I really want one of them..

31-05-2013, 01:31:47

FTLN
Quote:
Originally Posted by neverbackdown View Post
^^ i still don't see why you would multiply by four...
gddr5
Quote:
GDDR5 (Graphics Double Data Rate, version 5) SGRAM is a type of high performance dynamic random-access graphics card memory designed for applications requiring high bandwidth. Unlike its predecessor, GDDR4, GDDR5 is based on DDR3 memory which has double the data lines ("DQ" lines) compared to DDR2 but GDDR5 also has 8 bit wide prefetch buffers like GDDR4.


Qimonda, a spin-off of Infineon, has demonstrated and sampled GDDR5,[1] and released a paper about the technologies behind GDDR5.[2] On May 10, 2008, Qimonda announced volume production of 512 Mib GDDR5 modules rated at 3.6 Gbit/s (900 MHz), 4.0 Gbit/s (1 GHz), and 4.5 Gbit/s (1.125 GHz).

From wiki as u can see GDDR5 4 gig has a clock speed of 1G uses double the data lines ("DQ" lines)

from memory the DDR side mean's is can write/read on both sides of the clock cycle ie: write/read when the clock is high/rise (1) or low/fall (0) effectively doubling the data rate!


Ok, so if I divide the 837Mhz clock rate into the data rate 3348 I get 4. So the GPU clock rate is multiplied by 4 to get the memory data rate, right

31-05-2013, 06:51:49

corban
So far looking across the UK vendors I can't see any with the Titan cooler which after watching the review is a big letdown. I was looking at 2 770s instead of a 780 as the price is so close to go with my new haswell build but still need to wait on the nda being lifted in the boards to decide.

Thumbs up for the review Tom , up to your usual high standards just a bit sad that your joke at the start of the video seems to be actually more like what we are getting in the uk , tho that isn't your fault at all.

31-05-2013, 07:02:04

SieB
The 770 is a rebranded 680, Nvidia had to find a way of making it look less like it by using the Titan PCB and cooler on a reference card.

Nvidia_Troll_face.png

Still a good card, not taking away from that, but at the end of the day it is a rebranded 680 and I don't think we will be seeing any Titan PCB no ref versions. Why would manufacturers waste money on the Titan PCB when they can just use the 680 PCB? It's even the same GPU core, so they don't even have to change that either, just raise the clocks.

31-05-2013, 07:11:24

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by SieB View Post
The 770 is a rebranded 680, Nvidia had to find a way of making it look less like it by using the Titan PCB and cooler on a reference card.

Nvidia_Troll_face.png

Still a good card, not taking away from that, but at the end of the day it is a rebranded 680 and I don't think we will be seeing any Titan PCB no ref versions. Why would manufacturers waste money on the Titan PCB when they can just use the 680 PCB? It's even the same GPU core, so they don't even have to change that either, just raise the clocks.

very VERY narrow minded way to look at it. Sadly just makes you another troll that doesnt really understand tech or business.

Try watching my video about if they cut the 780 down.

The 770 if it was a 680 even in STOCK form would be the fastest 680 we have ever seen....

They cant use the 680 pcb, its not designed for the memory, the GPU core is all it shares. If you want to act like a bitch with that then the 780 is just a rebranded Titan.... DURRR

Youre 3820 is just a 3930k, your 3930k is just a 3960x..... This is all normal DOOOOFUS.

31-05-2013, 07:38:34

BradKing
So the 770 is a nice little OC-er (although with Boost 2.0 I might prefer an aftermarket cooler, maybe the 690/titan style cooler is good for SLI), it's finally a pretty decent price ish (about the same price as a 7970 GHz over here), that sounds good..

I'm a bit disappointed in the 1440p results, was hoping the memory improvements from the 680 --> 770 tweak would be more of an impact and I don't like that it still 'only' has 2GB :/ When going for a new system with 1440p this release hasn't tempted me away from a 7970 (as long as I can get the never settles games included), but it did kind of push me away from a 660 ti SLI build I guess.. if it drops in price below the 325~350 euro mark, it has SLI potential for my budget, sadly a single 780 doesn't warrant the difference imho, 770 SLI seems pretty nice performance wise..


Also, I think most of us understand what you're saying Tom I guess with this (770 at 400, 780 at 650), i'm mostly hoping for a 770 XT with a nerfed 110 core and 3GB ram at 500 (euros, dollars, monies)

31-05-2013, 07:54:02

SieB
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
very VERY narrow minded way to look at it. Sadly just makes you another troll that doesnt really understand tech or business.

Try watching my video about if they cut the 780 down.

The 770 if it was a 680 even in STOCK form would be the fastest 680 we have ever seen....

They cant use the 680 pcb, its not designed for the memory, the GPU core is all it shares. If you want to act like a bitch with that then the 780 is just a rebranded Titan.... DURRR

Youre 3820 is just a 3930k, your 3930k is just a 3960x..... This is all normal DOOOOFUS.
I don't see how stating facts is being narrow minded?
I understand perfectly well how binning works and all the rest of it.

Non of it changes the fact that the 770 is just a 680 with higher clock, a higher binned GK104. Like Intel's 2700Ks are to the 2600Ks except Intel didn't release them under a new generation, which is what Nvidia has done with the 770.

And manufacturers are already using the 680 PCB, try looking a few pages back in this thread. All they have to do is modify the PCB, they don't have to change it. It's the exact same core as a 680 with higher clocks plain and simple.

I like the card and it's well priced, i'm even thinking of getting one myself.

Call me a troll all you want, try and make me look stupid to make me look wrong. Whatever, facts are facts they are all there for everyone to see.

I know that all companies do this type of thing and i'm not saying they don't. But trying to say Nvidia haven't, well isn't true.

They have just taken highly binned GK104 cores, raised the clocks, added faster memory and called it one of their next generation GPUs.

I am far from being narrow minded, as I said, I think it is a good card. But lets not kid ourselves in to thinking it's something it's not.

31-05-2013, 07:57:15

tinytomlogan
Ahhhh see thats your beef.


waaaaa 'stamps feet' you say its next gen but its not 'stamps feet' waaaaaaaa


Just missing the point.

31-05-2013, 08:06:39

SieB
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Ahhhh see thats your beef.


waaaaa 'stamps feet' you say its next gen but its not 'stamps feet' waaaaaaaa


Just missing the point.
I have no beef...

I was just discussing the card, it is what it is. If it came across as bitching I did not mean it to and was only discussing.

I couldn't give a shit what Nvidia do but to be honest but i'm not going to stick my head in the clouds and pretend that it's something it's not.

AND JUST FYI, I STILL LIKE THE CARD AND WOULD BUY ONE

31-05-2013, 08:18:07

da axxxe
this is interesting to read through . but kinda makes me want one of these cards myself just to why the fuss is about .all jokes aside still yes it would of been cool to see a 780 core sliced down to make the 770 .when ya think about what they have done by using the 680 instead is a pretty interesting move and seeing how well it overclocks with core speeds aswell as memory speed,s will make it an awsome sweat spot in the midrange market of gamer like my self who dont have big wads to through at a gpu .getting current build to were it is today has set me hugely but is worth it and i think the 770 might be the last big splurge in my build if toms video is anything to go by

31-05-2013, 08:23:16

SieB
Quote:
Originally Posted by da axxxe View Post
this is interesting to read through . but kinda makes me want one of these cards myself just to why the fuss is about .all jokes aside still yes it would of been cool to see a 780 core sliced down to make the 770 .when ya think about what they have done by using the 680 instead is a pretty interesting move and seeing how well it overclocks with core speeds aswell as memory speed,s will make it an awsome sweat spot in the midrange market of gamer like my self who dont have big wads to through at a gpu .getting current build to were it is today has set me hugely but is worth it and i think the 770 might be the last big splurge in my build if toms video is anything to go by

It is a good card and the price makes the 7970 redundant. You would be stupid to buy a 7970 instead of a 770.

For 330 it's a great card, the only thing i'm saying is it is a rebadged 680 with higher clocks and memory. It is still a great card though.

31-05-2013, 08:27:46

tinytomlogan
Actually the 7970 is still good because of the game if you want them. The club3d beats a stock 770.

moaning its the old core just misses the point. Its a 680 on steroids. If they called it the 685 it would be pointless when the 700's are out. But a cut down 780 would have cost 400 easy. Honestly what they have done is genius.

31-05-2013, 11:14:52

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Actually the 7970 is still good because of the game if you want them. The club3d beats a stock 770.

moaning its the old core just misses the point. Its a 680 on steroids. If they called it the 685 it would be pointless when the 700's are out. But a cut down 780 would have cost 400 easy. Honestly what they have done is genius.
I agree with this. I don't know if it's genius but it's a smart buisiness move on Nvidia. Saves them money and therefore their next gen gpus could but that much better with a higher R&D budget.
A club3d 7970 is still a competitor to a 770. If it's cheaper it's probably a better price to performance ratio as well. It's all preference to which side you favor.

31-05-2013, 11:45:57

JMMP
i think that Nvidia played a god card one this release!!! they saved money with technology that already had used in another segment (Tesla) and the GTX 680, making the necessary changes to work properly in games and not showing the true Aces in the sleeves until AMD launches their next generation graphic cards!!
Imho opinion Nvidia its always waiting for the AMD move, because they probably have, at this present moment a much better technology ready to be launched!!

31-05-2013, 11:52:41

antihero
I wouldn't go as far as to call Nvidia geniuses. They simply let their products speak for themselves. Obviously the 7970 was a milestone for AMD, but since then they've gone, "That's all folks!" with their cards and started handing out free copies of games to win customers over. I'd be very surprised if AMD were capable of doing the same thing with the 8000 series Nvidia are doing with the 700 series. Especially now that they're doing graphics for next gen consoles. No fanboyism intended, but Nvidia are in a much better position at the moment.

31-05-2013, 12:08:24

SieB
Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero View Post
I wouldn't go as far as to call Nvidia geniuses. They simply let their products speak for themselves. Obviously the 7970 was a milestone for AMD, but since then they've gone, "That's all folks!" with their cards and started handing out free copies of games to win customers over. I'd be very surprised if AMD were capable of doing the same thing with the 8000 series Nvidia are doing with the 700 series. Especially now that they're doing graphics for next gen consoles. No fanboyism intended, but Nvidia are in a much better position at the moment.
To be fair though Nvidia hasn't done anything up till now either.

Neither company has released cards and the other company not released counters. The GPU market is highly competitive and both Nvidia and AMD would be stupid to not respond to each others releases.

AMD has never been far behind Nvidia in performance, or with new releases. Nvidia has the upperhand at the moment, but AMD will come back with something.

At one point in time one of them will be in front and the other behind, it just goes back and forth constantly. All you can do is buy whichever one is best at the time.

I can see what people are saying about the free games AMD give out, but at the end of the day they are free and whether you need them or not, they are still free. Plus from a marketing point of view it must pull a lot of customers in.

31-05-2013, 12:42:31

antihero
They released the fastest single-core GPU card and the 780 which uses the same chip. I think that's a fair bit more than nothing.

31-05-2013, 12:49:17

SieB
Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero View Post
They released the fastest single-core GPU card ever and use the same chip in the 780. I think that's a fair bit more than nothing.
I know that, but it's taken them from when they released the 680 till now to do something else. That's the same time frame that AMD hasn't done anything either.
AMD haven't done anything yet, but they are bound to do something in the next few months.

As I said, at one point in time either AMD or Nvidia will be in front of one or another.
Today it's Nvidia, tomorrow it will be AMD, the week after it will be Nvidia and then the month after that it will be AMD again followed by Nvidia soon after. Rinse and repeat, it's a never ending scenario

31-05-2013, 18:42:27

Meaker
I'm getting one of these in my notebook

31-05-2013, 20:52:14

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meaker View Post
I'm getting one of these in my notebook
Troll?

31-05-2013, 21:11:16

Vicey
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
Troll?
Maybe he means the GTX 770M and is unaware that they are different chips entirely?

31-05-2013, 21:18:14

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicey View Post
Maybe he means the GTX 770M and is unaware that they are different chips entirely?
That's what i figured....

31-05-2013, 21:44:58

qhfreddy
The 770 is so much better than the 680, these are not high binned 680s, they are just the ones that come off a more refined production line so they just perform better overall.

It is a rebadged 680 that does a lot better and is a lot cheaper.

01-06-2013, 01:47:29

NeverBackDown
How do you know the specifics? Have you seen them being made?

01-06-2013, 05:01:01

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by qhfreddy View Post
The 770 is so much better than the 680, these are not high binned 680s, they are just the ones that come off a more refined production line so they just perform better overall.

It is a rebadged 680 that does a lot better and is a lot cheaper.

Actually they are high binned GK104's. But its not a 680 is it. Otherwise you could say the 670 is just a low binned 680.

All this rebadged BS is just people that dont understand shit about business and technology.

01-06-2013, 05:06:41

motokill36
Its a nice Review .
But i now want this Card And Can't buy it anywhere in UK

01-06-2013, 06:55:14

Willzzz
You mean the reference version?
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/prod...XNGTX772&af=50

It may be shiny but that doesn't make it better than the other cards.

01-06-2013, 06:57:13

Meaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
Troll?
It does not come with a fancy cooler but it does get 4gb of ram.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/images/2128.jpg

Mine will be green

This is the 780m, so same chip as the 770 actually. Also with turbo boost 2.0.

01-06-2013, 07:00:50

Meaker
Quote:
Originally Posted by motokill36 View Post
Its a nice Review .
But i now want this Card And Can't buy it anywhere in UK
Overclockers are getting an inno3d card with the titan cooler.

01-06-2013, 07:23:06

Willzzz
Why not just buy a branded version, the cooler will be at least as good if not better.

Are aesthetics that important?

01-06-2013, 11:38:29

remember300
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
Why not just buy a branded version, the cooler will be at least as good if not better.

Are aesthetics that important?
there is nothing wrong with the stock cooler. And i think it looks awesome too.

01-06-2013, 12:26:36

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meaker View Post
This is the 780m, so same chip as the 770 actually. Also with turbo boost 2.0.
I wouldn't say they are based off the same core but maybe the same core for the mobile versions?

01-06-2013, 12:58:51

Meaker
They 770 and 680m use the same gk104 core with turbo boost 2.0. Sure the clocks are lower but ill fix that

01-06-2013, 13:29:38

Vicey
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meaker View Post
It does not come with a fancy cooler but it does get 4gb of ram.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/images/2128.jpg

Mine will be green

This is the 780m, so same chip as the 770 actually. Also with turbo boost 2.0.
EDIT:// Sorry I just realised you were actually referring to the 780m all along and not the 770m. Fail on my part, my apologies!

The chip may be physically the same but the GTX 770m has a lot less cores than the GTX 770.

GTX 770 = 1,536 Cores
GTX 770m = 768 Cores

The two cards will perform completely differently. Only the GTX 780m has 1,536 cores active. But that too is lower than the desktop GTX 780 which has 2,304 cores.

You cannot compare the desktop to the mobile parts because it's not just clocks that are different it is also the core count and the mobile editions do not correspond to the desktop parts in performance at all. Everything sort of "steps down" one with the desktop GTX 770 becoming the mobile GTX 780m etc

01-06-2013, 13:36:39

qhfreddy
I think he is saying that the 780m is comparable to the 770. They are similar in the core, but the clocks on the 780m are a lot lower than the 770 so the performance will reflect that. Now, if you manage to overclock the 780m to the desktop clocks you'd get a good chunk of performance, but that will be hard...

I have overclocked my 670m to just over 800 MHz, comparable to the 560 that is based on the same chip, but at that point the VRM is quite overloaded and the voltage has drooped from 900 to 867mV, not something to be running 24/7.

01-06-2013, 13:37:51

Vicey
Quote:
Originally Posted by qhfreddy View Post
I think he is saying that the 780m is comparable to the 770. They are similar in the core, but the clocks on the 780m are a lot lower than the 770 so the performance will reflect that. Now, if you manage to overclock the 780m to the desktop clocks you'd get a good chunk of performance, but that will be hard...

I have overclocked my 670m to just over 800 MHz, comparable to the 560 that is based on the same chip, but at that point the VRM is quite overloaded and the voltage has drooped from 900 to 867mV, not something to be running 24/7.
You are right and I apologise, I read his post as 770m and didn't see that he was actually referring to the 780m all along. My post is thus completely redundant haha

01-06-2013, 13:41:15

Meaker
Yeah, yet to see a 4GB 770M (considering it has a 192bit bus that would be a bit odd when 3GB makes more sense).

I am the person who took a 680M from 720/1800 to 1180/2650 for benchmarking and 1033/2600 for 24/7. I am sure i'll cope with the 780M.

01-06-2013, 18:57:33

NeverBackDown
Don't forget the memory is much much slower(2500mhz) compared to the 770s 7ghz...

01-06-2013, 19:24:59

Meaker
Yeah but the 780M from MSI is fitted with 1500mhz samsung modules that should reach 1750mhz fine.

01-06-2013, 19:28:20

NeverBackDown
Ok and that's even slower than 2500mhz? Honestly no point in in getting high end gaming laptops when a evenly priced PC will destroy it.

01-06-2013, 19:37:58

Meaker
I was quoting the memory chip speed so thats 6ghz data rate and 7ghz respectively. Its the same ram as the 690 basically.

01-06-2013, 19:44:01

NeverBackDown
1ghz is a big difference especially when your CoreClock is much much lower.

01-06-2013, 19:51:24

Meaker
What are you on about, I am saying the 780M will be clocked at 5ghz stock, is rated for 6ghz and will reach 7ghz or maybe a bit more which is the same as the 770 desktop.

You can also bring up the core clock like I said, I could run my 680M at 1033mhz and be completely game stable so it would never throttle at all even when left at 100% load.

Since the cooling on the new MSI is improved I should be able to hit 1050mhz core and 7ghz on the memory pretty reliably so that if you had the notebook and a desktop with the 770 in it you would not be able to tell the difference on a monitor side by side.

11-06-2013, 18:03:50

Forfrey
Is it even possible to buy 770 with reference cooler?

11-06-2013, 18:12:03

Meaker
Yes. 5 char.

11-06-2013, 18:23:28

iiBetrayforAR
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post
Just more proof God hates me. A little over a month ago I bought a GTX670 for $400. Now here is a 770 which is faster than the 680 for......wait for it.....$400.

You should have know the next gen GPUs were around the corner and waited silly!

11-06-2013, 18:24:52

WillSK
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forfrey View Post
Is it even possible to buy 770 with reference cooler?
It should be but I have to say they don't seem to be popping up a lot. Nearly all the ones i've seen have been aftermarket coolers

11-06-2013, 19:04:29

MSIRawZ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forfrey View Post
Is it even possible to buy 770 with reference cooler?
Inno3D are the only ones doing it. Not easy to find though.

11-06-2013, 20:52:47

theDTP
But the Phantom is so uffing sexy! Always loved the design!

15-07-2013, 11:06:10

Spiderz
http://eu.evga.com/products/moreInfo...0Family&uc=EUR

Seems like EVGA are planning to throw out a superclocked version of the 770 with the reference cooler. Not seen anything from MSI or Gigabyte though and not looked past them yet.

15-07-2013, 13:38:47

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderz View Post
http://eu.evga.com/products/moreInfo...0Family&uc=EUR

Seems like EVGA are planning to throw out a superclocked version of the 770 with the reference cooler. Not seen anything from MSI or Gigabyte though and not looked past them yet.

Bit pointless on the ref cooler, you could overclock it yourself better and save money...................

15-07-2013, 13:50:49

Spiderz
Of course you could but EVGA are only putting it on their SC card looking at the link, everything else is either the old GTX 680 style cooler or their ACX cooler, the only one they have that is the reference cooler is the SC one.

Bit daft in my opinion, must be a marketing thing
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