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HIS and ATI are striking back at the green team, find out which mid-range card came out on top here.

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Nice review mate. That 4830 is a nice GPU, but it's just too close to the price of a reference 4850...

And that IceQ4 4850 is quite possibly the sexiest graphics card of the year.

It is a rather lovely card.

As you say, the 4850 reference may pose a threat to the 4830, but even so, its still amazing value.

Its nice to see ATI coming strong, may save AMD's neck from the great weilding intel axe that is i7...

How do u mean ?

(good article btw)

well look at it a year back Nvidia pwning the graphics card market and Intel the CPU, the buyout of ATI by AMD, however lacklustre products from both sides of the ATI/AMD conglomerate, now ATI coming back with great products, it may just save them, AMD job cuts are rife and if you search round for AM2 motherboards they are getting thin on the ground as more motherboard manufacturers are gearing up for I7, with AMD's recent restructure into a development and manufacturing division rumours have been circulating that they may be pulling out of retail units and concentrating on OEM and server lines....this wouldn't exactly surprise me ...look at the X58 being both SLI/Xfire capable...this gives intel quite an advantage and does follow suit for the rumours mentioned above....theres zero news on any new desktop CPU's from AMD...it just looks like AMD are running for cover at the mo and maybe the 4000 series may just give them a lifeline...

Ah I see what u mean. Indeed, and I have a secret hope that their AM3 is going to be something to take note of. I would much rather be in a quandry over ordering new kit, other than just thinking i7.

yeah it takes the fun out of choosing new hardware. I just can't see how, other then the hand of god, how AMD are going to turn the tides, but there doing a cracking job with these cards, lets hope they keep it up...

well, if you think about it, they havent had a massively new architecture for a while now.. phenom, in the end, was pretty similar to am2...

So, with any luck, whatever they have been working on will be good...

P.s, thanks for all the postive feedback guys!!

hmmm....even though the socket type was the same I think the phenoms in terms of quad core architecture was "in theory" a massive change from the standard dual cores and the quad core design from intel, however whilst AMD were faffing about with 65nm intel jumped further ahead with the 45nm design, I think the similarities between the phenom and AM2 dual cores was no overhead (well very little) for overclocking, however I still think AMD's quad cores in theory were better designed then the core 2 quads (2 x core 2's slapped together and having to communicate via the fsb) , however like most things the proof was in the pudding, and the pudding was mucho salty for amd this time round....plus with pricing for proper AM2+ motherboards being in excess of £150 that hypertransport 3 wasn't used to its full advantage....hopefully with AM3 and a revision of the phenom architecture we may see a worthy competitor, however for enthusiasts they better make sure its got a good overhead,

Unlike the 6400 black edition (which I actually own) whats the point in unlocking the multiplier when the chip runs at its thermal and operational limit anyway.

But I love a good underdog story, and amd are the underdog being dragged round a field of broken glass by intels big monster 4x4....