Intel i7 5960X Review with ASUS X99 Deluxe

Introduction and Technical Specifications

Intel Core i7-5960X Review

Introduction

We've regularly lauded Intel here at OC3D for their incredible performance. For a long while their top end models were the ones that you absolutely had to have if you wished for the highest possible performance from your desktop. With the advent of the Sandy Bridge CPUs, which then ran through the Ivy Bridge, the majority of users moved from having the Intel premium model to the 'next one down'. The cost/performance was so incredible that when the LGA2011 socket was released it was left in a bit of a void. Gamers and most desktop users were happy with their blistering quad-cores, and serious power users were utilising the Xeons. 

The release of the i7-4960X redressed the flaws of the original LGA2011 i7-3960X and started to gain a little traction. However, the cost involved meant that it still wasn't quite different enough to justify the expense. The 4770K was still more than good enough for almost everybody, and the power users were still reliant upon the extra cores available on a Xeon CPU. In a lot of ways Intel were the victims of their own success. When the alternative is so brilliant, their top end processors just didn't offer enough to give the sales that we used to see from processors such as the i7-920.

With the introduction of the X99 chipset and brand new Haswell E Core i7-5960X, Intel has piled on the features and cores so that now there is absolutely no doubt which model stands as the flagship of their CPU range. Those of us who either require, or just plain want, the very best hardware that the market offers will be looking with desiring eyes at the Core i7-5960X and X99 combination.

Technical Specification

There are, as we will see on the next couple of pages, a few changes to the whole package with the new Haswell E and X99 Chipset. But the headline grabbing features stand out so strongly that it would be ridiculous to talk about anything else. 

Rather than a mere (!) six cores and 12 threads, the i7-5960X comes equipped with 8 CPU cores giving 16 threads to play with. If that doesn't have you reaching for your wallet, then perhaps the inclusion of support for DDR4 will do it. DDR3 has been part of our systems for so long that it seemed as if no manufacturer would take the plunge and be the first to apply DDR4 to their package. It's difficult to overstate how beneficial this should be to the performance capabilities of this arrangement, but also to us as consumers. What appears on the top end Intel will, in about a year, be on everything.

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29-08-2014, 11:39:29

tinytomlogan
http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/artic...095435950l.jpg

The next generation of premium Intel CPU and Chipsets are upon us, in the form of the 8 Core Haswell-E i7-5960X, on the ASUS X99 Deluxe motherboard.


Intel Core i7-5960X Review with ASUS X99 Deluxe Review

29-08-2014, 11:50:13

Thelosouvlakia
It's like Christmas! *^* Yay!

29-08-2014, 11:52:15

barnsley
I keep looking at the benchmarks and having to tell myself I don't need one.
I really want it :/

29-08-2014, 12:24:10

Zoot
Gah, I don't think I'll bother with X99. I don't need 12 threads, and while affording it is a non-issue, I just can't justify spending nearly 1000 on a motherboard, CPU and 16GB of DDR4.

Performance on the other hand, particularly a workstation, there's no beating it. Although it's a pity the turbo frequencies are as low as they are though. The two 8-core Xeon E5-2687V2's that are in my workstation at work turbo up to 4GHz. No way Intel is going to sacrifice their huge margin Xeon business though.

29-08-2014, 12:36:23

NeverBackDown
Everyone wants it but doesn't that pricey premium

I'd buy one second hand if i could at the right price

29-08-2014, 12:50:06

Dicehunter
Great review.

Wow Tomb Raider really benefits from the extra cores, Wish they would of done like they did with the last gen though, 4930K had the same cores as the extreme version.

Not out of my price range but it would be wasted on me due to only gaming with 1 GPU and not needing a gazillion gigs of ram

29-08-2014, 12:58:46

Wraithguard
Awesome eagerly awaited write up Guv, but just wow that price! Very impressed with the Asus board though, kudos to them. Saving the Video for later.

29-08-2014, 13:00:22

tinytomlogan
Ive done 72 hours since 6am Monday morning when I started all the X79 stuff.....

To say Im tired right now is an understatement. I enjoy seeing you lot like it but I need a hardware break this weekend!

29-08-2014, 13:03:40

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Ive done 72 hours since 6am Monday morning when I started all the X79 stuff.....

To say Im tired right now is an understatement. I enjoy seeing you lot like it but I need a hardware break this weekend!
Then take a day off. The forum has got this

29-08-2014, 13:04:25

VonBlade
Glad everyone likes it. Sure that price is steep, but for those of us who use loads of applications that wants more threads than a weaver, it's extremely tempting.

29-08-2014, 13:08:29

Wraithguard
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post
Ive done 72 hours since 6am Monday morning when I started all the X79 stuff.....

To say Im tired right now is an understatement. I enjoy seeing you lot like it but I need a hardware break this weekend!
Take a break, put your feet up, were all here to watch things.

29-08-2014, 13:18:16

agent_x007
To get things right : That slide in the begging is wrong.
P4EE is ~178 000 000 000 transistor chip, ie. 0,178B : LINK
I own that CPU (and first Dual Core from Intel too ), so belive me, I know how many are there
And THAT was the first 1000$ CPU from Intel.

PS. 1,7M ?
That isn't much more than 80486 (the thing BEFORE "Pentium 1") level - LOL : LINK

Intel : Why no DDR3/DDR4 IMC (Phenom II AM2+/AM3 style), WHY !

29-08-2014, 13:53:42

SieB
So much want, but can not have

The 5960X is defiantly a beast, those benchmarks scores are epic.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the 5820k does though, i'm planning on upgrading around summer next year and if Skylake is another side grade from Sandy like Ivy and Haswell have been I might go X99 with a 5820k instead. Prices for x99 motherboards and DDR4 should be a bit cheaper by then as well.

29-08-2014, 13:59:19

d1974
The advertised differences are largely the ones we've already explained above. It's strange to see that the amount of PCI Express 3.0 lanes has gone from 40 to up to 40.

I think you mean it has gone up from 16 to 40...

29-08-2014, 14:11:15

MadMarc
According to computerbase.de the OC-Socket will void your cpu's warranty, not really sure why they did it then, especially since it only seems to make a differance for extreme ocing

"Wie Intel auf Nachfrage von ComputerBase mitteilt, ist der von Asus genutzte Sockel nicht als Teil der Plattform validiert. Intel teilt mit, dass die Garantie der CPU beim Einsatz in entsprechenden Mainboards formal erlischt."

roughly translated:

upon computerbase's request Intel said that the socket used by Asus is not validated as part of the platform,..., when a CPU is used in such a board the warranty will be void

http://www.computerbase.de/2014-08/a...arantie-intel/

29-08-2014, 14:21:44

Permafrost

29-08-2014, 14:41:40

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by d1974 View Post
The advertised differences are largely the ones we've already explained above. It's strange to see that the amount of PCI Express 3.0 lanes has gone from 40 to up to 40.

I think you mean it has gone up from 16 to 40...

No typo - its meant to be comical

29-08-2014, 14:42:34

d1974
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...rtby=priceDesc

I7 5960X Box@ 759.95
I7 5930K Box@ 429.95
I7 5820K Box@ 299.99

I7 5820K Box 6 core, 12 thread but only 28 pci3 lanes...but still only 300!! sounds like a billy bargain to me.

29-08-2014, 15:31:57

Zoot
Judging by prices on Newegg's Irish operation (didn't know they had one!), the pricing for an upgrade for me comes to €950 for a basic (non boutique) X99 motherboard, a 5930k, and 16GB of DDR4. I wasn't far off with my estimate of €1k before.

I got my current CPU, board and memory for around €400 in comparison. But I got the memory back when DDR3 was dirt cheap around late 2011, those days are long gone sadly.

I guess I was hoping for a high clocked quad core like the 4820k, but it's not to be. I think I'll pass and hold on to what I've got for another while, but even if I was to upgrade it'd be next summer before I'd do so.

30-08-2014, 04:35:36

Jumanous
That's pretty impressive. 2 x 8 core xeon (2687) get 2069 on cinebench r15. That's not much more than the 1800 of the overclocked 8 core... whole lot less money avoiding dual xeons too

30-08-2014, 04:51:46

Excalabur50
Prices in Australia are 5820K $449, 5830K $679 and 5960X $1199 eye watering stuff then add $599 for the Rampage V, $579 for the Deluxe and $569 for the MSI Gaming 9 and add $305-$629 for ram and it becomes a real ring stinger......ouch!

30-08-2014, 05:29:02

Tripp
So far I have been eyeing up the 5820k, Asus deluxe an 16 gb of Corsair LPX, got a number of 746 for it all. It's really tempting to drop money on it haha

30-08-2014, 06:49:16

Ciric
Anyone wanna buy a kidney, so I can afford one of theese?
...well, gonna settle with my new bike.

30-08-2014, 12:38:41

Master&Puppet
So tempted.......trying to justify it to myself just on the bclk overclocking alone!

Have to say that the 5820K seems like a waste to me for a gamer. Chances of getting an overclock that barely reaches more than 4GHz probably means that, based on reviews I've seen so far, the extra frequency you can achieve on a 4790K is a better bet than the 2 more cores (and DDR4 isn't going to affect us lots).

You can get a 4970K with 16GB of 2400MHz RAM on a decent motherboard for ~500 whereas a comparable 5820K build will set you back ~700.

Having said that the 5930K needs to achieve some awesome clocks to justify that extra 150 over the 5820K (unless you REALLY need more PCIe lanes which I doubt). So maybe it's go big (5960X) or go z97?

But then hexcore chip for under 300, hell yea! Oh hell I don't know, just ignore me.

Thanks for the review TTL, love the in depth chat as always.

30-08-2014, 23:00:09

Xrqute
TTL what is UNCORE? you mention it but i didn't see you explain it in the write up? maybe you did in the vid which I'm about to watch.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Excalabur50 View Post
Prices in Australia are 5820K $449, 5830K $679 and 5960X $1199 eye watering stuff then add $599 for the Rampage V, $579 for the Deluxe and $569 for the MSI Gaming 9 and add $305-$629 for ram and it becomes a real ring stinger......ouch!
I did a rough from scratch build quote for myself yesterday and looking at close to $6K for my tower. but that also includes cooling, new case, new 5x SSD's etc.

31-08-2014, 05:31:15

Master&Puppet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrqute View Post
TTL what is UNCORE? you mention it but i didn't see you explain it in the write up? maybe you did in the vid which I'm about to watch.
Uncore clock controls the CPU cache frequency. Specifically the L3 common core cache which is the cache shared between all of the cores.

31-08-2014, 07:35:13

Zoot
Well I just discovered to use a hard drive that's >2TB, you actually need to use UEFI and the new GPT partition table instead of the MBR one. This was with putting a 4TB hard drive into my HTPC. Obviously that's not ultimately a problem because the AMD Kaveri board I'm using there has UEFI.

But... the 990FX motherboard in my main system is old enough NOT to have it. That means I've just gotten a justification to actually upgrade it, since I need a UEFI capable system for huge hard drives and if I'm to get a new motherboard I may as well just upgrade everything else too.

So maybe... a Haswell-E system is now becoming tempting.

31-08-2014, 08:19:59

RamboOC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoot View Post
Well I just discovered to use a hard drive that's >2TB, you actually need to use UEFI and the new GPT partition table instead of the MBR one. This was with putting a 4TB hard drive into my HTPC. Obviously that's not ultimately a problem because the AMD Kaveri board I'm using there has UEFI.

But... the 990FX motherboard in my main system is old enough NOT to have it. That means I've just gotten a justification to actually upgrade it, since I need a UEFI capable system for huge hard drives and if I'm to get a new motherboard I may as well just upgrade everything else too.

So maybe... a Haswell-E system is now becoming tempting.
Nope, i've had many boards with the old style bios that have an option to "enable support for <2TB drives".

Your 990FX Should definitely have it

I've even had am2+ boards that had the option

31-08-2014, 09:40:47

Wraithguard
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoot View Post
Well I just discovered to use a hard drive that's >2TB, you actually need to use UEFI and the new GPT partition table instead of the MBR one. This was with putting a 4TB hard drive into my HTPC. Obviously that's not ultimately a problem because the AMD Kaveri board I'm using there has UEFI.

But... the 990FX motherboard in my main system is old enough NOT to have it. That means I've just gotten a justification to actually upgrade it, since I need a UEFI capable system for huge hard drives and if I'm to get a new motherboard I may as well just upgrade everything else too.

So maybe... a Haswell-E system is now becoming tempting.
Even my lowly board supports 4TB drives, are you also taking into account that with windows 7 you are limited to 2TB, unless you modify the GPT....

31-08-2014, 11:39:23

Greenback
I like the gains I would get with the upgrade, but the prices make it a positive fact I will not be upgrading for a while yet I do like the white asus MB though

31-08-2014, 13:03:32

NeverBackDown
The White asus board is damn near $400 for me in the US... Yep more than a 4790k or even a 5820k. Sad thing is thats where most boards are priced it seems.

31-08-2014, 15:46:30

Zoot
Quote:
Originally Posted by RamboOC View Post
Nope, i've had many boards with the old style bios that have an option to "enable support for <2TB drives".
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wraithguard View Post
Even my lowly board supports 4TB drives, are you also taking into account that with windows 7 you are limited to 2TB, unless you modify the GPT....
Pretty much all boards have UEFI nowadays, even my ASRock AM1 board has it. That'll tell you how old my 990FX board is. Plus, Windows 7 works just fine installed to the new 4TB drive in my HTPC with access to all 4TB of it, however only with UEFI boot though.

Regarding GPT, you can use a GPT drive with a motherboard that has regular old BIOS, but booting from a GPT enabled drive with BIOS can be kind of messy. I don't know if Windows supports it, I think you can get grub to work if you're using Linux though. Really, you kind of need a UEFI motherboard to guarantee compatibility there.

Not only that, you need GPT for drives that are >2TB in size, otherwise you can only access the 1st 2TB of it, it's an inherent limitation of the MBR style partition table.

This is off-topic anyway (my fault ), start a new thread if you guys want.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Master&Puppet View Post
DDR4 isn't going to affect us lots.
Actually if you remember the very early days of DDR3, the DDR3 vs DDR2 argument was the very same. DDR3 didn't really set the house on fire at the start.

31-08-2014, 15:54:10

Permafrost
the only thing stopping me from going over to X99 is the price of DDR4, it's almost the 2X the price of DDR3....

31-08-2014, 22:08:03

paulstung
I'm tempted but I don't think the misses would be so impressed. At least I'd have loads of room to stretch out in bed, once she leaves, the problem with that is the winter is near, and I like a cuddle in the cold.

New build, 5 8 brunette with green eyes, and with very soft hands, add to that she is a sports therapist, no contest really. The things she can do with those soft hands, what the hell am I sat here at this time of night for, I'm of to bed, goodnight guys....

31-08-2014, 22:48:53

Xrqute
Guys yes DDR4 is more expensive then DDR3 but you are getting a brand new platform and unparalleled performance along with it. It's like comparing apples and oranges, yea ok they are both fruit but they are not the same! Sames goes for ddr3 vs ddr4.

01-09-2014, 03:58:57

barnsley
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrqute View Post
Guys yes DDR4 is more expensive then DDR3 but you are getting a brand new platform and unparalleled performance along with it. It's like comparing apples and oranges, yea ok they are both fruit but they are not the same! Sames goes for ddr3 vs ddr4.
Is the average person REALLY going to gain a load of benefit from DDR4 though? Not for the price.

01-09-2014, 05:15:29

Master&Puppet
The benefit to be had with DDR4 is the bandwidth but games barely make use of RAM bandwidth at all. I bet that if you put a DDR3 1600MHz kit up against a DDR4 3300MHz kit in game you wouldn't see more than a couple of extra FPS in the minimums. Certainly not worth the extra cost at the moment. For any sensible gamer buying a platform simply for DDR4 is really quite pointless but the cost will come down when the next mainstream platform becomes available with DDR4.

If you are using professional software then yes it will make a noticeable difference.

01-09-2014, 05:29:50

SieB
The differences in price and performance between DDR3 and DDR4 seems the same as it was with DDR2 and DDR3. Prices for DDR3 were similar to what DDR4 is now, DDR4 is a bit more due to inflation and the higher mhz kits though.

Hopefully we get a big price drop on RAM again like we did in 2012 when 8gb DDR3 dropped to as low as 25-30. I doubt DDR4 will drop that low though, especially the higher mhz kits.

01-09-2014, 05:47:30

Dicehunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnsley View Post
Is the average person REALLY going to gain a load of benefit from DDR4 though ?
For the everyday person who just does gaming and no real production type work it will be like dating an invisible person, You know they're there but not much else

01-09-2014, 13:38:26

NeverBackDown
DDR4 will become more of a FPS booster once game engines start going down the 64bit route and no longer using 32bit. It will allow for more ram to be used and it can be used more efficiently. Till then DDR4 is mainly for huge servers and heavy duty apps.

01-09-2014, 13:44:10

RamboOC
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
Till then DDR4 is mainly for huge servers and heavy duty apps.
Right now DDR4 ecc server ram is very rare

01-09-2014, 15:06:18

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by RamboOC View Post
Right now DDR4 ecc server ram is very rare
Didn't say they were using them now.

01-09-2014, 16:20:11

chrismjurd
i know this is review for the chip, but man, having just watched both this and the RVE review, back to back, how awesomesauce is that x99 deluxe, nothing wrong with how the RVE at all, just the x99 deluxe is incredibly sweet!

price is way outta my league, but i still want one, though i thought it should still get the gold award, aren't the equivalent Xeons about ~1500 anyways, sounds almost like a bargain no?

thanks for the hard work Tom, two totally awesome vids helped cheer me up tonight.

01-09-2014, 16:42:26

Dicehunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
DDR4 will become more of a FPS booster once game engines start going down the 64bit route and no longer using 32bit. It will allow for more ram to be used and it can be used more efficiently. Till then DDR4 is mainly for huge servers and heavy duty apps.
I'm guessing that games will start to take advantage of DDR4 when the next consoles come out i.e PS5/XB2.

Sadly I can't see them doing it before then, Games on our platform seem to follow the console releases which I'm guessing the next versions will be DDR4 etc...

01-09-2014, 18:04:27

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
I'm guessing that games will start to take advantage of DDR4 when the next consoles come out i.e PS5/XB2.

Sadly I can't see them doing it before then, Games on our platform seem to follow the console releases which I'm guessing the next versions will be DDR4 etc...
Think this is getting offtopic. We will have to continue this in a different thread.. this is a review thread after all
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