ASUS P6T DELUXE X58 Motherboard Preview

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ASUS P6T DELUXEObviously it's far too early to draw up a conclusion on what we think of the ASUS P6T DELUXE without being readily armed with a handful of test results and comparisons to boards from other manufacturers.
 
However, ASUS have managed to avoid a lot of the design layout 'gotchas' that plague other motherboards especially when we take into consideration that they've had to squeeze in a larger CPU socket, an extra two DIMM slots and a 16(+2) phase power delivery circuit. While this isn't the be all and end all of a good motherboard, it's certainly a good start.
 
Features such as on-board SAS, TurboV and the capability of running both SLI and Crossfire configurations (X58 feature) are all also groundbreaking inclusions for what will be a 'middle road' desktop board, and we'll be testing each and every one of these features in detail when the NDA's permit.
 
Providing ASUS are kind to us, the P6T will also be the basis of our initial Nehalem results published sometime in November and we'll be sure to put both the board and the latest/greatest Intel CPU against some of their most powerful predecessors.
 
 
Stay tuned and feel free to discuss this preview in our forums.
 
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13-10-2008, 09:54:15

JN
"With the Bloomfield CPU's just round the corner it's time for us to get up-close and personal with ASUS' X58 based P6T DELUXE motherboard."

http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/artic...101043580s.jpg

ASUS P6T DELUXE X58 Motherboard Preview

13-10-2008, 10:05:40

Daza
Ahem question time.

As Im presuming theres a cpu lying about for this board and some ram and that you might have got it up and running,

How hot does that northbridge get.

Oh and the vdimm voltage and cpu voltage thing any clue as to if there linked.

13-10-2008, 10:20:14

°TheMadDutchDude°
I don't think they did, it is just a review on the motherboard of what it is, and maybe of what it is going to be capable of doing.. an insight if you will

13-10-2008, 10:41:10

Rastalovich
If I was looking to get this mobo, I would have wished they`d not put those caps so close to the zif/socket. Unless they`re shorter than the socket, but it doesn`t look like it.

DDR3 I have at home `says` 1.9v on it, even though CPUz reads the spd as 1.5v for all the presets. Running it 1.5 on the 775 leads to issues I think and is a mis-reading by CPUz (but we`re testing some stuff regarding that atm).

The padded i/o plates wreak of cheapness imo, I don`t like them myself, even tho it has little bearing on the pc as a whole (I have tried looking under them to see if they`ll come off ). Those SATA+Power cables are shocking - however I feel they`d be excellent if they instead made them eSATA + a usb cable for power That`d be nice.

It`s interesting to have an onboard spdif header and a hole next to the spdif output for the cable to run back into the pc for the hmdi->audio. And only 1 optical which I think is input. Like the ALC889a I suppose.

Interesting, best of luck with that one. I`ll look out for the review.

13-10-2008, 11:10:02

Luigi
That looks AMAZING. Love the LCD!

13-10-2008, 11:41:18

usman.zx10
i have one gripe..

the order on the slots should have been pcie 1x, pcie 16x, pci, pcie 16x, pcie 1x. the gap is a little too long gonna have to get special crossfire or sli bridges.

why are pci slots still showing up on new mobos anyway? Everything has gone pcie for the most part..

13-10-2008, 11:43:56

ionicle
not bad, but could be better, maybe..

13-10-2008, 13:54:53

WC Annihilus
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='usman.zx10'
i have one gripe..

the order on the slots should have been pcie 1x, pcie 16x, pci, pcie 16x, pcie 1x. the gap is a little too long gonna have to get special crossfire or sli bridges.

why are pci slots still showing up on new mobos anyway? Everything has gone pcie for the most part..
Dude, you think they would space it out like that without giving you a proper length bridge? :rollingla

Lots of people like having two slots in between as it allows more room for graphics cards to breathe. As for why there are PCI slots, say you have a nice X-Fi Elite PCI card you paid over $200 for... wouldn't you want to be able to use it?

13-10-2008, 17:23:58

Hassan
So disappointed that there is no CPU to test it on.

13-10-2008, 17:25:51

JN
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Hassan'
So disappointed that there is no CPU to test it on.
Patience fellow. Intel would rip us limb from limb if we published anything like that early

14-10-2008, 01:44:44

PV5150
Excellent preview Jimbo, tis a really nice looking motherboard with plenty of features. I'm really getting excited about Nehalem now.

14-10-2008, 04:44:02

°TheMadDutchDude°
I wouldn't be too excited bud. The price is too high if you ask me, and as for the estimated pricing, they where completely off. People estimated the CPUs to be around $280 for the cheapest, which is around £150 (not sure on the currency exchange at the moment) and it is infact £250 here for the cheapest, although I have a strange feeling it is only £150 over in the USA.. GRR!

Also, yes the motherboard is sweet with all those features etc, but is it really worth that amount of money to you? The RAM is also just OTT, being at around £80 a stick.. I think they are really taking the P**S with that one to be quite honest.

Not in a ranting mood, don't get me wrong I just think that the pricing is a bit high. Yeah the Quads were very high to start out with but look how low they've sunk? I expect pretty much the same with these to be honest.. in 6 months time they *should* be a more affordable price for someone like me LOL

14-10-2008, 11:54:07

Jaster
80 quid a stick.....where are you shopping...PCWorld ...DDR3 has taken a pounding on price...and with the entry level nehalem being (rumoured) only $265 (probably see it for around the £200 mark in the UK) then with the prerelease benchies that we've seen it won't be that more expensive then what you would pay for a high end spec at the moment...but at the performance increase...slaaaaarrrghghghghghgh....sorry the drool was affecting my typing...i'll stop ranting...lets just wait for real world bencies and real world pricing....

15-10-2008, 11:00:19

FarFarAway
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Jim'
Patience fellow. Intel would rip us limb from limb if we published anything like that early
Plus unlike some websites, we don't kiss and tell...early

Quote:
Originally Posted by name='PV5150'
Excellent preview Jimbo, tis a really nice looking motherboard with plenty of features. I'm really getting excited about Nehalem now.
Agreed, me too

15-10-2008, 11:34:10

°TheMadDutchDude°
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Jaster'
80 quid a stick.....where are you shopping...PCWorld ...DDR3 has taken a pounding on price...and with the entry level nehalem being (rumoured) only $265 (probably see it for around the £200 mark in the UK) then with the prerelease benchies that we've seen it won't be that more expensive then what you would pay for a high end spec at the moment...but at the performance increase...slaaaaarrrghghghghghgh....sorry the drool was affecting my typing...i'll stop ranting...lets just wait for real world bencies and real world pricing....
No mate... Who shops there Was looking at the RAM which is specially for the Nehalem (has to be below 1.65v otherwise you will damage your CPU permantly due to the onboard memory controller in there I believe) which was from OCUK, yes they like to rip it being the first to have the stuff.. but it is going to be around that price to begin.

I'm not only saying that.. it's from prices I'VE seen! I wouldn't be posting **** on here, why lie? I am here to help.. not stur up!

15-10-2008, 11:46:20

GavX
Overclockers UK had X58 boards and Core i7's up for like an hour a few weeks ago, I think it came to about £200 for 6Gb of fast RAM, £220 or something for this motherboard and about £250 for the 2.66Ghz-ish CPU. It is not THAT expensive, when some people would pay £1000 for a QX9770 which the entry level i7 may top. Anywho cool preview, not long now Jim do you actually have a Core i7 to test his bad boy out when the NDA comes off? (evil plans to rob Jim if he does )

15-10-2008, 11:56:18

Rastalovich
I`d like to drop in a serious question as to what in the name of sanity made them force the DDR3 to be under 1.65v ?

There is no reason why they did that other than making u buy new memory from what I can see. If it were DDR4/5 I could understand their methods, but to force the tie-in so that u can`t use old memory is just vindictive and money gathering.

15-10-2008, 12:06:07

Jaster
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='°TheMadDutchDude°'
No mate... Who shops there Was looking at the RAM which is specially for the Nehalem (has to be below 1.65v otherwise you will damage your CPU permantly due to the onboard memory controller in there I believe) which was from OCUK, yes they like to rip it being the first to have the stuff.. but it is going to be around that price to begin.

I'm not only saying that.. it's from prices I'VE seen! I wouldn't be posting **** on here, why lie? I am here to help.. not stur up!
Fair enough...look at this DDR3...right granted its crap low level stuff...but the more its manufactured the cheaper the price...granted 1600 is still around the 65 quid mark...but prices are coming down fast....in the past 3 weeks we've seen 4 price drops on DDR2 and DDR3....so by the time we have juicy nehalem CPU's and decent mobo's available I can't honestly see the price being that much different...at the end of the day we wouldn't be enthusiasts if we weren't willing to fork out that little extra...

but then sometimes I do feel like saying "sod it i'm off to buy an ALDI special" ....

15-10-2008, 12:33:06

°TheMadDutchDude°
LOL I suppose so mate. The thing is though that the RAM has to be below 1.65v, as you can see in that picture and states it in other sources as well. The DDR3 RAM that I know, is mainly 1.75v or more.. so how is this going to affect our Nehalems (not that I'm getting one )

15-10-2008, 14:20:54

Jaster
check the link above...the budget ddr3 at 1066 at microdirect is 1.5v....and £ 20 per 1 gb strip......I know what you mean but it seems that when were on the cusp of new tech coming out people start complaining about the price.....new tech always is the same or more then the existing tech...its a fact of life...if someone said heres some brand new benchmark breaking tech...and u can have the whole system for £20 then most would say "its **** cos it costs nowt" (alright that maybe a mass exagertion )......the first run of any new tech is gonna cost more to try and recoup as much development costs as they can...because if that tech doesnt take off its there arses on the line...take hddvd for example...

and at the end of the day people can ***** about the price but heres a novel concept...you don't like the price....don't buy it....i'm sure u can still run everything u have on your current system fine ...do you really need the upgrade ...

15-10-2008, 14:48:08

°TheMadDutchDude°
About that RAM.. if you're prepared to spend £500 on a motherboard and a CPU, I expect you're prepared to spend more than £20 for a stick of RAM which is the slowest DDR3 speed you can get, etc..

I don't mean to start any flame wars because by the look of it you're getting annoyed already.. I'm just simply stating a fact!

15-10-2008, 15:04:49

FarFarAway
I think we should draw a line under the ridiculous 'it's expensive so it's not worth it' pettiness here.

Here's a news flash: New stuff is expensive. R&D costs, along with commercialism dictates this and those not old enough to know should simply take note of these facts.

Nehalem looks very nice and is what Intel should have done in the previous generation, by integrating the memory controller on-die, but they couldn't eat humble-pie so soon after A64. I'm looking forward to Nehalem, as well as some of AMD's new stuff, IF AMD can get it out before the new millenium.

15-10-2008, 15:30:23

°TheMadDutchDude°
I reckon Intels stuff is coming out first...

Any ways Kempez, yeah I know it costs due to R&D and marketing etc.

The biggest thing that annoyes me is the fact that it is some times nearly half price in the USA than it is over here in the land of the taxes. Looks like my aunt is bringing me some stuff the next time she comes over..

15-10-2008, 15:34:21

Luigi
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='°TheMadDutchDude°'
I reckon Intels stuff is coming out first...

Any ways Kempez, yeah I know it costs due to R&D and marketing etc.

The biggest thing that annoyes me is the fact that it is some times nearly half price in the USA than it is over here in the land of the taxes. Looks like my aunt is bringing me some stuff the next time she comes over..
Lucky!

It annoys everyone dude, but its getting better

15-10-2008, 15:39:50

°TheMadDutchDude°
For sure! So.. who wants a CPU for half the price, I'll get her to ship it over

LOL jokes.. this is going completely off topic now.. stop it lads

15-10-2008, 15:49:40

Luigi
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='°TheMadDutchDude°'
For sure! So.. who wants a CPU for half the price, I'll get her to ship it over

LOL jokes.. this is going completely off topic now.. stop it lads
You started it? lol,

Tbh, I cant wait for the benchies

16-10-2008, 04:11:16

Jaster
same here technokid, juicy benchilicious....stop it i'm salivating again

16-10-2008, 06:21:06

JN
Actually guys, this is probably the best time to ask... WHAT BENCHES DO YOU ALL WANT TO SEE?

Get listing now and I'll accommodate whatever I can (and whatever makes sense).

16-10-2008, 07:08:05

Rastalovich
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Kempez'
I think we should draw a line under the ridiculous 'it's expensive so it's not worth it' pettiness here.

Here's a news flash: New stuff is expensive. R&D costs, along with commercialism dictates this and those not old enough to know should simply take note of these facts.

Nehalem looks very nice and is what Intel should have done in the previous generation, by integrating the memory controller on-die, but they couldn't eat humble-pie so soon after A64. I'm looking forward to Nehalem, as well as some of AMD's new stuff, IF AMD can get it out before the new millenium.
It`s all well and good, but u also have to massage into that that the price for whatever product, especially in the UK, is set to "what can we get away with charging for this".

RnD, costs/expenses, then how much more %.

Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Jim'
Actually guys, this is probably the best time to ask... WHAT BENCHES DO YOU ALL WANT TO SEE?

Get listing now and I'll accommodate whatever I can (and whatever makes sense).
Ideally m8, I`m only really looking for one of these setups to bench against the best 775 to see how it fairs.

Individually and cross-referencing to previous benchies doesn`t really excite me.

U gonna also oc it til it gives u issues ?

16-10-2008, 07:22:03

JN
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Rastalovich'

U gonna also oc it til it gives u issues ?
I feel that the initial review will more than likely only cover stock performance as overclocking may take some time to master, and I don't want to publish anything until I've had plenty of time to play with it.

I was considering something along the lines of Nehalem vs QX9770?

16-10-2008, 07:42:49

Rastalovich
Sounds good.

Was thinking similarly with the oc`ing that it would be prudent to get some things down on paper b4 doing anything that`s likely to crap the setup out. The supplier would have to appreciate ur going to push it, that`s understandable, but it`s the old walking b4 u run addage.

I`d also consider using a mobo that will allow the best matching of memory in both quantity and performance - as best. Going in 3s and 2s could be an issue, whether settling for 6g vS 4g would be fine ? Or being as 6g is more than any1 would ever need (b4 we`ve seen Windows7), perhaps 6g vS 8g - in which case the dual speed system hasn`t been short changed at all.

Tricky. Of course the same graphics setup/drives/whatever would be straight forward.

U happen to be stuck with a stock cooler too ? Or u had any other new thing in ? If it`s stock, u might have to bite the bullet and use stock on the 775. Saying that the extreme stock cooler `looks` a heck of alot better than the regular 775 c2d stock cooler.

16-10-2008, 08:15:32

JN
I think 6GB vs 8GB will probably be the best bet and also try to use the same memory kits if possible (ooh this is gonna be fun).

As for GPU's i'm feeling a pair of 4870x2's maybe, just to ensure no bottlenecks (with SLI testing on-the-side).

CPU coolers, run with stock until we do the OC'ing and then maybe wait until someone like XSPC comes out with a compatible top for the new socket. At least that way we can test using exactly the same cooling capacity on both systems.

16-10-2008, 08:25:56

Jaster
I'd like to see the vantage scores at absolute stock, to see if they really stand up to the claims made on other sites about there performance. Nothing flashy, 1 Graphics Card, 2 GB of Ram, like I said stock with nothing special on it, then when we have a good baseline then look at how much difference triple channel DDR3 makes and push the thing piece by piece to see where it falls over. It would be very interesting to see Xfire scores against sli on the same mobo though.....ohhhhhh the possibilities....i'm sure whatever the oc3d team do will be exceptional as always

16-10-2008, 08:30:18

Rastalovich
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Jim'

As for GPU's i'm feeling a pair of 4870x2's maybe, just to ensure no bottlenecks (with SLI testing on-the-side).
.. I dunno.

I`d probably think x1 card for the mobo comparisons. I`d want as little driver issue as possible. (even tho they`d theoretically have the same issues)

When u go to push them ofc, that`s different.

16-10-2008, 11:40:55

Luigi
Quote:
Originally Posted by name='Jim'
I feel that the initial review will more than likely only cover stock performance as overclocking may take some time to master, and I don't want to publish anything until I've had plenty of time to play with it.

I was considering something along the lines of Nehalem vs QX9770?
How about 2 setups, clock for clock identical, same ram graphics card etc, run some 3dmark and a few games on it, to see how they compare in games

16-10-2008, 17:45:10

monkey7
I'd like to see some kind of comparison between all three of the i7 models. This would give an idea if the extra performance is worth the price.

I guess it's quite hard to obtain all 3 models early enough though :P
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