ahh yes sorry i kinda associated the wealth and discipline there, i wasnt calling poorer people criminals, or saying that they're more likely to be criminals, but i was focusing on the structure/quality of their familiys... and yes i have to agree on the rich thing there, my comp is in a mixed wealth area, and it's saddeningly funny watching school kids thinking they are "gangstas" and rapping in the playground etc, when you see the same kid bein dropped off by their mom in a merc in the morning,

Okay this is stupid. He is another person trying to control what children believe. He is probably the kind of religous person I totally dislike; the kind that does not respect other people's beliefs. So he thinks that his children will get polluted if they read about homosexuality is not a bad thing on the internet. The internet allows us to really discover who we are; it isn't going to turn us into sexual predators unless we were to become one anyway. I mean, if I were to go on say, a decapitation website (not that I do lol), its not that site's fault if I enjoyed it. Its something to do with me. He is an ignorant man, the kind that believes that the only way to look at it is his (or his religion's) way.

Maybe we should look at it in the way that his religion teaches incest and murder, and that their "savior" spent an awful lot of time with a prostitute. Is it just me, or would that be a worse influence?

Alot of criminals do come from disadvantaged backgrounds but there are many kids from wealthy backgrounds who are screwed up on drugs, alcohol and the crimes associated with it. I come from a working class area and I know alot of my mates are strict with their kids because of the problems in our areas. I am strict with my two kids and my parents weren't wealthy but I was brought up to have respect and they did indeed discipline me. ;)To say that there is a clear divide between wealth and discipline is incorrect.

Just because someone comes from a single parent, or low income family doesn't make them a criminal or a social misfit. Criminals come from all walks of life and to label one segment of society is plain wrong in my opinion.

Cheers,

Stu

Agreed. Tbh OP has offended me a little, because I'm from a single parent family and my mother works freaking hard, yet I have never, and never will commit a crime.

Ah, the panty waistes are at it again.

Garage is the only word for this IMO.

Agreed. Tbh OP has offended me a little, because I'm from a single parent family and my mother works freaking hard, yet I have never, and never will commit a crime.

hey hey hey... i never said anything about single parent familiys, i was suggesting that a lack of support for the kids/familys, in my experience, seems to make kids more likely to go out and commit crimes... infact if you read my first post PROPERLY you'l see i'm focusing on the fact that children are either being underparented, or there is a bad role model in the family, aka "a brother who is a druggy", seriously i feel like im being made out into a rich snob here, the true focus of my post was about kids coming from "problem families", in which case they are incredibly likely to go and commit crimes, i have said nothign about the working class, nor insinuated them to be criminals, and i havnt even said anything about single mothers...


the only thing that was wrong about my first post was "but there is a clear divide of wealth and discipline", and that, i now see was insinuating that poorer people are more likely to become criminals, or that poorer parents discipline their children less, and i have already apolpgised for that unintended inference

anyways what this person is suggesting is that a bad enviornment makes a bad person.. maybe he should have a lookey over to genesis.. garden of eden.. ooo only 2 people there, both of which have never sinned.. and then they go off get themselves kicked out of the garden of eden.. hmm yeh that really sounds like God bought them up in a dodgy environment :P

Can't smoke at 16 Rast.... Where ya been mate?

Tis 18 now.

I thought that was just something supermarkets brought in off there own backs, nothing official.

hey hey hey... i never said anything about single parent familiys, i was suggesting that a lack of support for the kids/familys, in my experience, seems to make kids more likely to go out and commit crimes... infact if you read my first post PROPERLY you'l see i'm focusing on the fact that children are either being underparented, or there is a bad role model in the family, aka "a brother who is a druggy", seriously i feel like im being made out into a rich snob here, the true focus of my post was about kids coming from "problem families", in which case they are incredibly likely to go and commit crimes, i have said nothign about the working class, nor insinuated them to be criminals, and i havnt even said anything about single mothers...


the only thing that was wrong about my first post was "but there is a clear divide of wealth and discipline", and that, i now see was insinuating that poorer people are more likely to become criminals, or that poorer parents discipline their children less, and i have already apolpgised for that unintended inference

Okay Okay. I took what you said the wrong way.

The man must be a total nutcase lunatic! :D

Thats all I have to say.