I really do wish you could find other words to use then swear words. It really does make a sensible thread look a total mess

Funny as how they wernt actual cuss words. :rolleyes:

On topic. I agree with PP McGuire for once, in saying that it is most likely the Parents' fault and that they should take responsibility in monitoring what their kids do, how they act, and if the need be get them help. End of discussion.

I've been playing these so called "violent" video games since I was 9. I don't want to kill people. Nothings changed.

It is the parents fault. They use video games and TV as a baby sitter instead of raising their own children. This coming from my own parents. Ive been playing "violent" vidier games since i can remember and beating things up on Mario since before then. I dont go around wanting to kill people or hate the world or anything. What i hate the most is it is these parents that try to pull this crap on us. (I swear that word better not be profanity, cause if so thats rediculous)

Yea I've been playing violent games and watching violent movies since I was like 7. It hasn't changed me in a negative way at all. Never have I ever wanted to hurt anyone and never have I attempted murder.

Blame the parents & their friends & the bullies that make 'em angry and mentally ill.

let me tell you a story...

frida night at work (i work at a sports centre) there was a young lad, probably about 10 who was doing judo. He came to talk to me and my mate, and my mate asked him if he could judo roll him. This young lad, after trying to judo roll him (and failing) proceeded to kick the crap outta my mate, genuinely being very violent, and even when we told him it was past a joke, he carried on kicking and punching him, it was quite disturbing, i actually had to drag him away.

games dont make kids violent, mainly because a "spectrum plasma laser extremo gun" is never easy to get hold off. However teaching kids martial arts (kicking and punching) from a very young age DOES make kids more violent.

I couldn't disagree with you more Dave. Having done martial arts (Tae Kwon Do and Hap Ki Do) for the greater part of my life, it becomes a discipline and way of life. One simple isolated incident such as this, and martial artists are branded as violent? Who's to say that the kid wasn't unstable in the first place?
I say this reflects somewhat on the teacher, personally...not the art! Children undertaking any form of martial arts need to understand that the kind of behaviour you observed is completely unacceptable. Teachers should be instilling values of humility and self discipline into students, not ones of retaliation.

As far as the EU intentions on CSS...I think that's total crap. Next they'll be telling you what boxer colours you're allowed to wear. There will always be unstable people in society, who take things to the extreme...always has been, always will be. But banning an innocent game on the argument that they put forward is total tripe. It'll be a sad day for people's rights if they do.

I couldn't disagree with you more Dave. Having done martial arts (Tae Kwon Do and Hap Ki Do) for the greater part of my life, it becomes a discipline and way of life. One simple isolated incident such as this, and martial artists are branded as violent? Who's to say that the kid wasn't unstable in the first place?
I say this reflects somewhat on the teacher, personally...not the art! Children undertaking any form of martial arts need to understand that the kind of behaviour you observed is completely unacceptable. Teachers should be instilling values of humility and self discipline into students, not ones of retaliation.

As far as the EU intentions on CSS...I think that's total crap. Next they'll be telling you what boxer colours you're allowed to wear. There will always be unstable people in society, who take things to the extreme...always has been, always will be. But banning an innocent game on the argument that they put forward is total tripe. It'll be a sad day for people's rights if they do.

I agree. Mrtial arts brings discipline to one's life. It's good for you.

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I couldn't disagree with you more Dave. Having done martial arts (Tae Kwon Do and Hap Ki Do) for the greater part of my life, it becomes a discipline and way of life. One simple isolated incident such as this, and martial artists are branded as violent? Who's to say that the kid wasn't unstable in the first place?
I say this reflects somewhat on the teacher, personally...not the art! Children undertaking any form of martial arts need to understand that the kind of behaviour you observed is completely unacceptable. Teachers should be instilling values of humility and self discipline into students, not ones of retaliation.

Exactly. The kid probably wasnt in martial arts at all. Becasue the teachers have to know that dicipline before they can become teachers. Either that or the kid just was unstable already and went on a frinzy.

if violent games were banned people would just go out and vent there anger on the public instead of taking it out on someone 1000s of miles away without any consequences
if you remove games from the equation your not going to remove the problem of violence its still going to go on but there will be a load of bored people out there having fun with petrol bombs it going to turn into a real war zone

Scary thinking matt :eek: I hope you would be wrong :eek: :eek:

Having done martial arts (Tae Kwon Do and Hap Ki Do) for the greater part of my life, it becomes a discipline and way of life.

I'd guess that the judo kid in Dave's story's suffering from a lack of discipline, something which is a problem with this sports centre instructors, they teach the style, but not the discipline, whereas a proper sifu/sensei will teach both (usually with more discipline). I think things such as Pride and UFC are causing this to get worse.

On the flipside to what Dave said, video games do teach violence, and they reward, and give no discipline, which is probably worse.

I say this reflects somewhat on the teacher, personally...not the art! Children undertaking any form of martial arts need to understand that the kind of behaviour you observed is completely unacceptable. Teachers should be instilling values of humility and self discipline into students, not ones of retaliation.

I doubt this sort of thing is isolated PV, this probably happens more than you think. Personally I think kids should be much older before they start to learn martial arts, as it is clear to me that too many of them cannot be disciplined by it, and just end up becoming violent.

I doubt this sort of thing is isolated PV, this probably happens more than you think. Personally I think kids should be much older before they start to learn martial arts, as it is clear to me that too many of them cannot be disciplined by it, and just end up becoming violent.

It's a problem with the teachers, not the kids.