Sandy Bridge and P67 Prices Revealed

Preliminary Thoughts

Sandy Bridge and P67 Prices Revealed

 

Preliminary Thoughts

 

To conclude, there is a lot to look forward to with the release of Intel's new product family. While overclockers may feel as though they've walked into a McDonalds that is purely vegan, except for two burgers priced at £5 and £7, we don't think you'll be too disappointed regardless. Given that there has been evidence of these processors reaching up to 5GHz on air, there is inevitably very little room to complain. Much like how certain processors in a given family become the overclocker's choice, we expect that the same will hold for the upcoming 2500K and 2600K processors, because they will perform so well. Simply ignore that it is your ONLY choice and you will be as happy as Larry.

Its not all bad in terms of motherboards either. An entry level motherboard will set you back just short of £100 while performance variants can be had from £150 upwards. One interesting thought is that we may see certain consumer attention moving away from the "extreme" motherboards. As these processors are not made for BCLK overclocking, you needn't worry about causing as much strain on your motherboard either. For example, we regularly dismiss motherboards that fail to reach the magic 200MHz BCLK mark today, however next year it wouldn't even matter. Indeed we still need motherboards with reasonable enough power phase design, but assuming this criteria is met, one could argue that the importance of the motherboard has just been compromised somewhat. Will this hold in practice? Only time will tell.

Clearly there is still much more that we would like to find out but there is no denying that the new LGA1155 generation is looking mighty promising. So for those who continue to bleet "do I or do I not wait for Sandy Bridge?", the answer is WAIT.

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30-11-2010, 17:54:41

tinytomlogan
We all know that the hardware industry leaks like a broken pipe. Hence, it comes to no surprise that the pricing of LGA1155 kit has surfaced...

Continue ReadingQuote

30-11-2010, 19:35:41

alienware
Right now (sorry !) I am a little dissapointed. Let me explain !

As usual these new chips we have been dying to see have a boring name. Pretty much the same ones we have now (I3 I5 I7). It would have been amazing if they had come up with a cool new name like.

Secondly the pricetags don't make them really desirable and it seems that there aren't any 'killer apps' in there. No extremes, no 980X hex core nothing.

Fair play Intel need time to come up with them but man it would have been a.mazing to see a 5ghz chip

I do very much look forward to seeing them put through their paces though Quote

30-11-2010, 19:49:57

Ollii
Hi, I'm just about to order a whole new build and was completely satisfied with everything, until I very recently came across this Sandy Bridge. I originally decided to have an Intel

Core I7 950 and an Asus X58 Sabertooth to match (Mainly due to how highly you rated both of them) but now I have found out about this Sandy Bridge so should I wait a little longer and get the Intel Core I7 2600k and perhaps the Gigabyte P67A-UD4 to match? I see that price wise my original and the Sandy Bridge are roughly the same, So I would love to know the differences between the two and if it is worth going Sandy Bridge or not. Thanks.Quote

30-11-2010, 19:54:13

murphy7801
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

Hi, I'm just about to order a whole new build and was completely satisfied with everything, until I very recently came across this Sandy Bridge. I originally decided to have an Intel

Core I7 950 and an Asus X58 Sabertooth to match (Mainly due to how highly you rated both of them) but now I have found out about this Sandy Bridge so should I wait a little longer and get the Intel Core I7 2600k and perhaps the Gigabyte P67A-UD4 to match? I see that price wise my original and the Sandy Bridge are roughly the same, So I would love to know the differences between the two and if it is worth going Sandy Bridge or not. Thanks.
X58 still has more power if want a gaming machine its x58 still if want a reasonably priced semi gaming machine sandy bridge its a replacement for 1156 socket not a 1366 replacement.Quote

30-11-2010, 20:02:06

Ollii
Quote:
Originally Posted by murphy7801 View Post

X58 still has more power if want a gaming machine its x58 still if want a reasonably priced semi gaming machine sandy bridge its a replacement for 1156 socket not a 1366 replacement.
Ok Thanks alot. So in gaming terms the X58 with the I7 950 would be quicker than the top Sandy Bridge without question ? Even though the Sandy Bridge apparently overclocks to 5GHz on air? Whereas I don't think I'd be pushing my 950 over 4GHzQuote

30-11-2010, 22:02:33

Captain Caveman
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienALX View Post

Right now (sorry !) I am a little dissapointed. Let me explain !

As usual these new chips we have been dying to see have a boring name. Pretty much the same ones we have now (I3 I5 I7). It would have been amazing if they had come up with a cool new name like.

Secondly the pricetags don't make them really desirable and it seems that there aren't any 'killer apps' in there. No extremes, no 980X hex core nothing.

Fair play Intel need time to come up with them but man it would have been a.mazing to see a 5ghz chip

I do very much look forward to seeing them put through their paces though
Not sure but I think I read that its a replacement for the 1156 socket i3, i5 and i7...Hmmm...sounds like their still gonna call them i3-7 but differentiation is going to be the socket 1155...maybe Im just reading into it.

"We" could code name it the middle of the road CPU or even better "the Neapolitan" CPU if your just after another name Lol Time will tell...

BTW...before anyone takes this wrong way "I'm not being an ARSE". Just my sense of humor. Lol I may have to put this disclaimer on all my repliesQuote

01-12-2010, 05:33:09

happyshoppa2
Are the 1156s gonna get cheaper in January?Quote

01-12-2010, 16:53:55

Todd
Of course they are. They're getting replaced, matey.Quote

01-12-2010, 17:31:03

Ollii
So do you think an I7-950 with X58 motherboard will still be faster than the 2nd generation I7-2600k with a P67 motherboard coming out in January as its only an 1156 socket?

thanks a lot :-)Quote

01-12-2010, 18:30:55

Bungral
Quick question... Why does it say that the UD4 and UD5 only support Dual Channel DDR3 1333/1066/800, the UD7 supports Dual Channel DDR3 2200/1600/1333/1066/800 and the bottom of the range supports Dual Channel DDR3 2200/2133/1600/1333/1066/800Quote

01-12-2010, 18:36:08

Bungral
I don't necessarily think so, same as the i7 870 was faster than the i7 920 even though it was on the P55 chipset without even being a new architecture... The only difference being the memory controllers really.

Also the new 2600K is a brand new architecture and will therefore be faster anyway. The only downside again compared to the i7 950 will be the dual channel memory controller vs the triple channel memory controller but pure performance should make up for that and then some more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

So do you think an I7-950 with X58 motherboard will still be faster than the 2nd generation I7-2600k with a P67 motherboard coming out in January as its only an 1156 socket?

thanks a lot :-)
Quote

01-12-2010, 19:05:57

Ollii
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungral View Post

I don't necessarily think so, same as the i7 870 was faster than the i7 920 even though it was on the P55 chipset without even being a new architecture... The only difference being the memory controllers really.

Also the new 2600K is a brand new architecture and will therefore be faster anyway. The only downside again compared to the i7 950 will be the dual channel memory controller vs the triple channel memory controller but pure performance should make up for that and then some more.
As this will be a pure gaming machine, would you recommend I get the new I7-2600k and a motherboard to match then ? instead of the current 950 and x58 ? and how big a difference will there really be between the two types ?Quote

01-12-2010, 19:10:14

Complex!
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Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

As this will be a pure gaming machine, would you recommend I get the new I7-2600k and a motherboard to match then ? instead of the current 950 and x58 ? and how big a difference will there really be between the two types ?
We can't tell for sure untill there's a review of the i7-2600k mate. Tom could probably tell us more but Intel would have his head if he did lol Quote

01-12-2010, 19:15:18

LaurenceGough
Why didn't they do it before the VAT increase... Well hopefully the 1155 motherboards start getting decent prices before next year. We're getting ripped off vs USD prices .

So you guys reckon it's worth the extra to get the unlocked K version? Although I've never normally had to OC a quad core CPU before to play games at high fps...

I hate waiting haha, need a proper PC, no more stinkin' laptop .Quote

01-12-2010, 19:27:36

Ollii
Hehe :-) ok ty mate just one more thing though, I ordered the 950 and x58 around 4 days ago so would you suggest sending them back and getting a refund and then wait for the 2600k to be released and see then what to get ?Quote

02-12-2010, 02:49:11

happyshoppa2
Stupid question maybe but - if I buy the Noctua cooler right now, it only comes with 1156 and 1366 fittings right? So I'd be buggered if I bought a 1155 next month? Or do they use same fitting, or can I get an adaptor from Noctua, etc?Quote

02-12-2010, 03:11:48

lasher
1155 mounts are now included out the box.

Any stock sold without the mounts or for existing owners the great folks at noctua will supply the mounts free of charge!

http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=startQuote

02-12-2010, 03:14:51

happyshoppa2
That's awesome, thanks. Gonna order it now.

(Yes I'm buying everything else for my new build except for the cpu/mobo because of this sandy bridge! got a lovely empty case going on)Quote

02-12-2010, 08:00:38

Techyandy
I think this will be the year of the suffixes:

K to denote unlocked multiplier

S to denote Low power version

T to denote lower power/lower clocked versions

It does make sense to the advanced user, but realistically it will just confuse consumers as they wont understand what one is better for them.

Still; i am glad that they have decided to refresh the mainstream first this time, my i7 rig is turning 2 years old soon and it feels like i have got some value from it. While seeing what the new architecture is capable of is enticing, i am eager to hear more details on the extreme socket and/or whether it will be on Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge and whether it will be die shrunk to <30nm.Quote

02-12-2010, 09:00:51

Bungral
I agree with Complex above. We don't know by exactly how much, but I expect it to be better. It would make absolutely no sense if it wasn't and they couldn't release it if it was slower. Well they could, but it just wouldn't sell.

But yeah generally, if you can wait and it'll cost you around the same money, then yeah wait for the 2600k

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

As this will be a pure gaming machine, would you recommend I get the new I7-2600k and a motherboard to match then ? instead of the current 950 and x58 ? and how big a difference will there really be between the two types ?
Quote

02-12-2010, 10:48:21

Ollii
Might be a stupid question but ill ask anyway With this new processor and motherboard coming out, it won't effect the ram will it?, as i got the mushkin ridgeback that was reviewed on here due to when overclocked it thrashed the dominator gt's and was just wondering if they will still be better as perhaps they might not overclock as well with this new type of motherboard?Quote

02-12-2010, 13:45:54

LaurenceGough
Quote:
Originally Posted by happyshoppa2 View Post

That's awesome, thanks. Gonna order it now.

(Yes I'm buying everything else for my new build except for the cpu/mobo because of this sandy bridge! got a lovely empty case going on)
This is what I was thinking of doing but don't see the point waiting like a month just for a cpu and motherboard might as well buy it all closer to the time . Probably better deals going later too...Quote

02-12-2010, 17:13:27

Ollii
Hi again, any chance someone could answer the question I posted about the memory as I need to know asap. thanks Quote

02-12-2010, 17:21:52

tinytomlogan
We cant say too much because of NDA matey. Youll have to wait untill JanuaryQuote

02-12-2010, 18:38:54

Ollii
Hang on I've just realised something I think, the new motherboards are dual channel aren't they and so therefore the mushkin ridgeback you (Tom) reviewed will not fit in the new motherboards will it ? . hmmmmmm, if I am correct in saying this what is the best memory on the market to suit these motherboards then?Quote

02-12-2010, 18:42:59

hmmblah
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

Hang on I've just realised something I think, the new motherboards are dual channel aren't they and so therefore the mushkin ridgeback you (Tom) reviewed will not fit in the new motherboards will it ? . hmmmmmm, if I am correct in saying this what is the best memory on the market to suit these motherboards then?
It will fit fine. You'd just use 2 sticks instead of all 3 if you wanted dual channel.Quote

02-12-2010, 18:52:46

Ollii
Quote:
Originally Posted by hmmblah View Post

It will fit fine. You'd just use 2 sticks instead of all 3 if you wanted dual channel.
Ah ok did not realise that (Sorry I'm new to all this stuff ) but will just using two sticks defeat the reason why I got this ram? as I earlier mentioned about the overclocking on this ram, as only when overclocked was it better than the corsair gt's so due to different motherboard it might not overclock as well and tom answered that we couldn't tell until its released which is I believe is very much true. but just from guessing would you think that this ram couldn't be overclocked as well due to it being just dual channel and therefore the gt's would be better? Also it is possible to just purchase both these kits of ram in just dual channel isn't it? I'm sorry if the wording isn't easy to understand, I tried my best Quote

02-12-2010, 18:57:31

hmmblah
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

Ah ok did not realise that (Sorry I'm new to all this stuff ) but will just using two sticks defeat the reason why I got this ram? as I earlier mentioned about the overclocking on this ram, as only when overclocked was it better than the corsair gt's so due to different motherboard it might not overclock as well and tom answered that we couldn't tell until its released which is I believe is very much true. but just from guessing would you think that this ram couldn't be overclocked as well due to it being just dual channel and therefore the gt's would be better? Also it is possible to just purchase both these kits of ram in just dual channel isn't it? I'm sorry if the wording isn't easy to understand I tried my best
It's really hard to say, but if the sticks overclock well in a P55/X58 setup you could assume they would clock just as well in a P67 IF the P67 could reach those clocks. I have no idea how overclocking will be on this platform. Either way, Mushkin is good stuff at stock or overclocked. You made a good purchase IMO.Quote

02-12-2010, 19:06:50

Ollii
Quote:
Originally Posted by hmmblah View Post

It's really hard to say, but if the sticks overclock well in a P55/X58 setup you could assume they would clock just as well in a P67 IF the P67 could reach those clocks. I have no idea how overclocking will be on this platform. Either way, Mushkin is good stuff at stock or overclocked. You made a good purchase IMO.
Ok, thanks a lot been very helpful. I think I'll keep with Mushkin then, just got to decide whether or not I go X58 and I7 950 or P67 and I7 2600k.Quote

08-12-2010, 16:22:30

Aeon
Can I just ask, Surely the UD5 will support higher speed DDR3? Or will only the UD7 be 1600+ capable at launch? Or do they just not advertise the UD5 is capable of DDR3 at 1600mhz?Quote

09-12-2010, 17:54:43

Ollii
Hey everyone, Em Tom would you be able to tell us when you'll have the SB's and 1155 socket's to test? or can you not say?Quote

09-12-2010, 18:13:01

Mr. Strawberry
dont think he can say

though bit-tech has said to people they have them though i am not sure if they got ass raped by intel or notQuote

09-12-2010, 18:44:28

Ollii
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Strawberry View Post

dont think he can say

though bit-tech has said to people they have them though i am not sure if they got ass raped by intel or not
lol ok thanks, could you personally though give a guess to when he might have them to review? seeming as this pre release thing has gone on before so when are these reviewers usually allowed to show them?Quote

09-12-2010, 18:53:10

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollii View Post

lol ok thanks, could you personally though give a guess to when he might have them to review? seeming as this pre release thing has gone on before so when are these reviewers usually allowed to show them?
Had the for weeks, youll see results ect when the NDA gets lifted in January.Quote

09-12-2010, 18:55:49

Ollii
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post

Had the for weeks, youll see results ect when the NDA gets lifted in January.
Ah ok cool, looking forward to it Quote
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